Official: 2023/24 Retained List

[Biddulph_PV]

1 minute ago, Guppys left peg said:

That header he missed on Saturday and whatever the hell that shot was meant to be from him should be instantly disqualifying. He would only be an asset to us if he was playing for the opposition.

Nah, if he was playing for the opposition he’d look world class. 

Looking at that list…. it’s like a nightmare you can’t wake up from 😭 

Strap yourselves in for Relegation Battle II - 24/25 edition.

[Vtid]

Love Uche for his effort, unpredictability & his personality but unfortunately he’s just not good enough. Get him & his apparent big wage gone & bring someone else in. Not a big fan of Loft either but technically he’s better than Uche & if we can’t shift him on I wouldn’t be too fussed with him in league 2 but only as 4th choice striker 

[JoeB2]

I predicted this exact retained list earlier in the week, bar Leutweiler who I didn’t know was out of contract. This wasn’t some incredibly foresight, but just plainly obvious. I’m not sure why people are outraged.

I’m not surprised by Uche, even though I’m no fan. Hundreds of games above League 2. I imagine he’ll reject it and be on his way. Wynne is clearly someone Moore rates.

Flitcroft built this squad with a two-year window in mind. The vast majority of new signings were signed on two-year deals: Loft, Grant, Lowe, Sang, Debrah, Yak. These are both manifestly not good enough for where we want to be, but contractually owed probably between 75-120k by PVFC over the next 12 months, and perfectly entitled to collect that whether they play or not. We can bleat all we want, but Flitcroft shafted us not only last season, but next.

I’ve no doubt efforts will be made to move these players on, but will they go? Who is going to take them on at the same wage? We all publicly and widely deride Loft and Sang, and then hope there’s another professional football club willing to take them off our hands for similar wages. It’s fantasy land. We either move them on and continue to pay 20-30% of their wages to play for another club, pay up hundreds of thousands to ‘sack’ them, or they’re stuck here.

Perhaps the reality has sunk in for a few. 23/24 was a disaster and will not be undone by August. Clarke had the luxury of completely reshaping his squad in 2021, signing 15 players. Moore will be able to sign 6-7, perhaps. He is stuck with players who probably don’t like the club, who have a negative relationship with the fans, with a squad blighted by a relegation. He’s going to have to plan for a season involving Tom Sang and Conor Grant, I imagine. 

It’s a huge job - to revitalise the club with largely the same group of players we’ve rightly decided aren’t up to it, with a very disillusioned fanbase. Anything approaching the top 7 next year is a good season. I imagine the youth players will be crucial - performing for cheap, allowing us to invest some of the leftover budget in a real area of need. 

I think 24/25 will be a fine but not spectacular season. We usually operate with between the 6th-10th highest wage in League 2, and gut instinct tells me that’s where we’ll be next May. If Moore performs his usual trick of getting relegated aides immediately into the playoffs then it’s a job well done. 

[Armers4eng]

Supporting this club is like being tortured slowly,

Relegated last week 

Resign uche this week

What the hell are they gonna do next week

I've had enough 

[JoeB2]

I don’t think Uche has been properly fit at all this season. Arrived late after not playing for months, got fit then out for months, then a few appearances here and there before season end in a diabolical side creating nothing.

If he walks away from us a League 1 club signs him, simply because he’s such a freak footballer. I wouldn’t be disappointed if he did leave.

[Biddulph_PV]

Just now, Armers4eng said:

Supporting this club is like being tortured slowly,

Relegated last week 

Resign uche this week

What the hell are they gonna do next week

I've had enough 

Putting season ticket prices up…. 🤣🤔

[Hitcher]

I don't buy the theory that Uche will be better in league 2. Arguably there will be more 'big lump / meat and potatoes' defenders so Uches tactic of ricochet shunting his way through won't be as effective as it is against dainty ball playing centre backs in league one.

[Granville]

[Granville]

8 minutes ago, Armers4eng said:

Supporting this club is like being tortured slowly,

Relegated last week 

Resign uche this week

What the hell are they gonna do next week

I've had enough 

Loft contract extension 

[JoeB2]

I’ll put the extremely controversial view out there and get pelters: Uche with a full pre-season will be absolutely fine in League 2.

[Biddulph_PV]

45 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

I’ll put the extremely controversial view out there and get pelters: Uche with a full pre-season will be absolutely fine in League 2.

And it would be lovely to think Ryan Loft could come back like a 2012/13 Tom Pope as well. And yet I suspect……. 

Edited April 29 by Biddulph_PV

[JoeB2]

14 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

We usually operate with between the 6th-10th highest wage in League 2, and gut instinct tells me that’s where we’ll be next May. 

I misspoke and meant we usually have between the 6th and 10th largest home attendance in League 2.

[cast]

58 minutes ago, Vtid said:

Suprised not a single player has been made available for transfer publicly though. Other clubs have clearly stated who’s been made available to leave & up for sale 

It’s a very lazy and predicated list. Shocking really. I’m lost for  words really. Just incredibly bad 

[Boslem's Brazil]

As others have said, you can’t read too much into it. Doesn’t seem to be the done thing of naming who is on the transfer list. I’d be very surprised if at least 5 of the contracted players are not moved on. 

[cheeky]

There’s not a lot that could be done with regards to the retained list given the majority of the players are still in contract.

I am disappointed a number of the players haven’t been publicly transfer listed mind you, and the fact Uche has been offered a new contract concerns and astounds me in equal measures.

My biggest worry now, and I can see it coming, is we end up losing Chislett, Garrity and Ripley and then we’re left with a squad that isn’t even good enough to avoid relegation from League 2. 
 

It’ll be an interesting summer, that’s for sure.