Carol statement

[LancyTony]

When somebody holds their hand up and admits to making mistakes, and promises to try to put things right, and work towards getting things back on track - what more do you want? How vindictive are some of you going to be? Have you never made mistakes? Grow up...accept what's done has been done and let's see where we go from here?

As for the incredible morons who still think you can spend what you like on the playing budget and ignore FFP and its restrictions - playing budget can have a maximum value, being dependant upon a percentage of income. This is fixed, and playing budget can only be increased if more money comes to the club, Anything left over from the playing budget can be spent wherever the Board / Owners feel fit - whether it's gold=plated window frames or pink fluffy dice for every spectator - it cannot go towards spending on the team. For about the 50th time this season - get that through your thick heads????????

[Killersrevenge44]

12 hours ago, Osh said:

And exactly who do you want to take over. How many multi millionaires do you know in north Stoke on Trent...??

I've read some dumb messages on here in my time but this comes close to the best ever.

She's made mistakes - including on Flitcroft (the guy who helped recruit DC and some of the players that gave us one of best days ever at Wembley, and recruited Alfie and Ollie, but hey ho) - she's admitted mistakes. 

It's time to move on. As others have said, actions are what's needed - there are some quite poor players that need to be hot rid of, one way or another. 

Like Wrexham and Stockport, a new DoF needs a good budget and bring in some good players. Moore needs a good squad - not the shower of <ovf censored> he's got right now. If we can retain the key players and ask them to fight at least one season in EFL2 that will help. 

Lots to do. She's did it before - I'm happy to give her the time and space to do it again. 

UTV and KTF

He isn't far wrong... This cluster fck season is on her! 

[Osh]

2 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

He isn't far wrong... This cluster fck season is on her! 

Still doesn't stop the question though does it. Just how do we find another multimillionaire in north Stoke on Trent willing to pay for this...??

It's that simple

[Killersrevenge44]

7 minutes ago, Osh said:

Still doesn't stop the question though does it. Just how do we find another multimillionaire in north Stoke on Trent willing to pay for this...??

It's that simple

Plenty of multimillionaire Vale fans to choose from... One happens to be club  president! 

[headsup]

18 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Plenty of multimillionaire Vale fans to choose from... One happens to be club  president! 

First sentence – I somehow doubt it.

Second sentence – please god no.

[ginge]

1 hour ago, LancyTony said:

When somebody holds their hand up and admits to making mistakes, and promises to try to put things right, and work towards getting things back on track - what more do you want? How vindictive are some of you going to be? Have you never made mistakes? Grow up...accept what's done has been done and let's see where we go from here?

 

Exactly this. You would think some people have never made a mistake on here. Every season clubs have to go down and some go up. Every club can't simply demand a new owner if you get relegated. Clubs make decisions- some pay off for some and some don't. This year we were not good enough. It's a tough pill to take but we will have to move on and rebuild. And I think as fans we should do our bit to support our club rather than turn our backs on it. 

[Houston Valiant]

1 hour ago, LancyTony said:

When somebody holds their hand up and admits to making mistakes, and promises to try to put things right, and work towards getting things back on track - what more do you want? How vindictive are some of you going to be? Have you never made mistakes? Grow up...accept what's done has been done and let's see where we go from here?

As for the incredible morons who still think you can spend what you like on the playing budget and ignore FFP and its restrictions - playing budget can have a maximum value, being dependant upon a percentage of income. This is fixed, and playing budget can only be increased if more money comes to the club, Anything left over from the playing budget can be spent wherever the Board / Owners feel fit - whether it's gold=plated window frames or pink fluffy dice for every spectator - it cannot go towards spending on the team. For about the 50th time this season - get that through your thick heads????????

Why do you have to be so angry all the time, in making your point?  Name calling etc. It gets old. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

[Paul6754]

1 hour ago, Osh said:

Still doesn't stop the question though does it. Just how do we find another multimillionaire in north Stoke on Trent willing to pay for this...??

It's that simple

And that's the point Osh.  I'm all for free speech and fair criticism but some fans take it a too far and should just think a little more as to who and what is posted about the Shanahan family on all forms of social media. 

Vale fans wonder why one wealthy Vale fan in particular doesn't get more involved, perhaps the answer lies in some of the posts directed at the Shanahan family.

[Osh]

6 hours ago, Paul6754 said:

And that's the point Osh.  I'm all for free speech and fair criticism but some fans take it a too far and should just think a little more as to who and what is posted about the Shanahan family on all forms of social media. 

Vale fans wonder why one wealthy Vale fan in particular doesn't get more involved, perhaps the answer lies in some of the posts directed at the Shanahan family.

Post office the day. Well said m8. 

Some Vale fans are in danger of getting what they wish for. To get rid of Carol and possibly get another Smurf or, worse, nothing at all.

 

[Houston Valiant]

8 minutes ago, Osh said:

Post office the day. Well said m8. 

Some Vale fans are in danger of getting what they wish for. To get rid of Carol and possibly get another Smurf or, worse, nothing at all.

 

I don’t wish to get rid of the woman , nor do I like to see her being abused on social media. That’s wrong , but she is to be criticized for the handling of the club in the last 18months. 
We will see how the summer goes though, and hopefully she can climb down off the corporate high horse that she is on , despite her latest attempt to communicate with the fans. 

[Bald Eagle]

1 minute ago, Houston Valiant said:

I don’t wish to get rid of the woman , nor do I like to see her being abused on social media. That’s wrong , but she is to be criticized for the handling of the club in the last 18months. 
We will see how the summer goes though, and hopefully she can climb down off the corporate high horse that she is on , despite her latest attempt to communicate with the fans. 

That’s it for me too.  Another quote was we Win or we learn- we don’t seem to have done much of either in the last 18 months! 

[PVFC764]

On 20/04/2024 at 21:57, Nippy Naylor said:

Yep but actions speak louder than words 

Fair play to carol for the apology, though 

That apology letter has been prepared for the last month and bet the CEO has done the check on it and amended it, as there was only going to be one outcome.  Surprised she didn't get in that the fans were naughty fans for making her sack/move on Fraudcroft and relegation is our fault really.

Lessons learned - may be buy 2 strikers that can last more than a couple of games.  Failed that one after the first 2 transfer windows.  Failed this seasons transfer windows.  Players that are up to the job and not the cheapest option.

That said good luck in the preparing for 2nd Div football, hope you get things sorted and we can start the climb out of this division the right end of it.  Will not be easy due to the clubs here.  Big club - no we are not.  We are just another club in the div.  Carol needs to listen to free advice from those who have been in football a long time.  Sproson could be a good start as he seemed mighty upset by the last 2 season on saturday.

Carol - you still have some credits in the bank for what you and family did.  However, a lot of them have been cashed in over the past 2 years and the letter saying the fans were being naughty.  When you look at it overall, think the fans sussed Fraudcroft out, when certain people were still taken in by his presentations and jargon.  Not saying some of the things he achieved were all bad, but when it came down to recruitment and that was the important one - totally wrong most of the time.

 

Edited April 22 by PVFC764

[PVFC764]

15 hours ago, Conrad said:

It’s already been stated by the club, the toilets are a bit more than a repair job. Through neglect by previous owners, the concrete roof has caved in, this is a chunk of concrete that probably weighs about 5 tons so when that dropped it probably wiped out every thing inside the bogs. 
to do the complete rebuild will mean temporarily loosing the entrance and exit to the railway which would have meant a drastically reduced capacity, that’s why it’s a job for the closed season.

Get some Sjoke fans in they know how to demolish toilets and the roof may fall on them 🤪 🤪

[NW9Valiant]

4 minutes ago, PVFC764 said:

4th Div football

FTFY

5 minutes ago, PVFC764 said:

Carol needs to listen to free advice from those who have been in football a long time.  Sproson could be a good start

Please, no. Carol's been in football long enough to know people outside the circle that is Port Vale that have a bit more lived experience (and isn't an agent either).

I've no got no wish or time for her to listen to people with a 'connection' to the Vale, least of all because I want the club to actually progress and go somewhere, rather than think small time which is why we struggled for so long in League 2 in the past.

 

[Rockape99]

11 minutes ago, PVFC764 said:

That apology letter has been prepared for the last month and bet the CEO has done the check on it and amended it, as there was only going to be one outcome.  Surprised she didn't get in that the fans were naughty fans for making her sack/move on Fraudcroft and relegation is our fault really.

Lessons learned - may be buy 2 strikers that can last more than a couple of games.  Failed that one after the first 2 transfer windows.  Failed this seasons transfer windows.  Players that are up to the job and not the cheapest option.

That said good luck in the preparing for 2nd Div football, hope you get things sorted and we can start the climb out of this division the right end of it.  Will not be easy due to the clubs here.  Big club - no we are not.  We are just another club in the div.  Carol needs to listen to free advice from those who have been in football a long time.  Sproson could be a good start as he seemed mighty upset by the last 2 season on saturday.

Carol - you still have some credits in the bank for what you and family did.  However, a lot of them have been cashed in over the past 2 years and the letter saying the fans were being naughty.  When you look at it overall, think the fans sussed Fraudcroft out, when certain people were still taken in by his presentations and jargon.  Not saying some of the things he achieved were all bad, but when it came down to recruitment and that was the important one - totally wrong most of the time.

 

I agree about sproson , he’s actually gutted  we gone down . But he knows football inside out , think he make an excellent sounding board for her and Matt