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To be fair when you've got Scotty Brown it's a big ask to challenge for the #1 spot. I too would also like to send my best wishes for the future to all the released players. Particularly Ryan Llo

I think you're being very harsh. We have looked after him but he has also played his part by being a model professional for six years and being great for the Vale on and off the field. There's plenty

Johnny Maddison on Twitter.  Best of luck to you for the future Johnny 🤞🏻

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Just anounced the retained list. About what i expected.

Amoo, Browne, Conlon, Brisley, Smith, Cullen and Montano offered new contracts the rest have been released with Clarke and Taylor going back to their clubs.

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Spot on. The exact 7 I would have offered new deals to.

Would love to keep all 7.

Compare us to everyone else, who is releasing players like its going out of fashion. We've elected to offer new deals to 7 players. We're in good hands.

Thanks to all the lads who are moving on; all have played a part in our rebuild season in some way or another and never caused any problems. Seem like they have good attitudes and wish them well.

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2 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Spot on. The exact 7 I would have offered new deals to.

Would love to keep all 7.

Compare us to everyone else, who is releasing players like its going out of fashion. We've elected to offer new deals to 7 players. We're in good hands.

Thanks to all the lads who are moving on; all have played a part in our rebuild season in some way or another and never caused any problems. Seem like they have good attitudes and wish them well.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks Joe B - you pretty much read my mind there... best wishes to those moving on from Vale.

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1 minute ago, Andy Proctor said:

The only surprise to me is not offering maddison a deal it will be hard bring a keeper in that's happy sit on the bench. 

I suspect that with the current issues hitting football we should be OK though as there are surely going to be a lot of players desperate for any sort of contract - even one as a regular bench warmer. 

I wonder if Maddison went because sadly he isn't the long-term answer. Brown isn't getting any younger so we do need to look for a successor so perhaps the club have someone in mind who could offer Scott Brown some proper competition for his place next season?

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I thought Maddison and Browne would be the other way around, but apart from that, I think it’s what we expected. I’ve always felt Askey didn't 100% rated Maddison, and remember him saying ‘Ronny liked him, so we took him on’ when we signed him. I actually thought he looked decent in the one game he played, but I imagine Askey has someone else in mind, so we shall wait and see. 
 

So if everyone signs, Askey will probably look to bring in 6 new additions (whenever that may be) I think a striker will be top priority. Potentially Ollie Palmer. Any other names/suggestions/ anyone can think of? 

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2 minutes ago, robf said:

I suspect that with the current issues hitting football we should be OK though as there are surely going to be a lot of players desperate for any sort of contract - even one as a regular bench warmer. 

I wonder if Maddison went because sadly he isn't the long-term answer. Brown isn't getting any younger so we do need to look for a successor so perhaps the club have someone in mind who could offer Scott Brown some proper competition for his place next season?

Agree with this. I think Askey will bring someone in to compete with Brown and ultimately to be his successor. 

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Maddison is a good lad, who according to the Vale players improved a lot this year, but I think the fact his only appearance was against Newcastle U23s in the Checkatrade, when we've got an ageing first choice, is probably indicative that we didn't think he was/will be ready.

Would love Palmer; looking around retained lists of Colchester, Cambridge, Carlisle, and Salford (have I missed any), the likes of:

Harry McKirdy

Stefan Scougall

Frank Nouble

Michael O'Connor

Chris Neal

Kyle Letheren

Scott Wiseman

Craig Conway

Nathan Pond

George Taft

Paul Lewis

Are all names that have proven they can do the business at this level. Some are positions we don't need players at; some are too old; some are questionable characters.

Its the League 1 retained list we want to be looking at, as well as the Category 1 Academies.

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13 minutes ago, Andy Proctor said:

The only surprise to me is not offering maddison a deal it will be hard bring a keeper in that's happy sit on the bench. 

Not in 2020-2021. There will be players ripping your hand off to sit on the bench. Means they're getting paid.

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4 minutes ago, Doha said:

Not in 2020-2021. There will be players ripping your hand off to sit on the bench. Means they're getting paid.

We might well consider going withBrown plus a young lad - don’t know what the youth team keeper is like. If we need to trim costs this could be one way of doing it and you can bring in a loan keeper at any time in the season. Our reputation is good now so clubs would probably be much happier to let us borrow players than was the case previously. 

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i also wondered if we would offer atkinson as he can play a few positions, always useful in the squad over a long season. Its nice that this is the first season in years where i havent hoped most of the would go.

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36 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Maddison is a good lad, who according to the Vale players improved a lot this year, but I think the fact his only appearance was against Newcastle U23s in the Checkatrade, when we've got an ageing first choice, is probably indicative that we didn't think he was/will be ready.

Would love Palmer; looking around retained lists of Colchester, Cambridge, Carlisle, and Salford (have I missed any), the likes of:

Harry McKirdy

Stefan Scougall

Frank Nouble

Michael O'Connor

Chris Neal

Kyle Letheren

Scott Wiseman

Craig Conway

Nathan Pond

George Taft

Paul Lewis

Are all names that have proven they can do the business at this level. Some are positions we don't need players at; some are too old; some are questionable characters.

Its the League 1 retained list we want to be looking at, as well as the Category 1 Academies.

Nathan Pond must be about 55 by now !!

Neal and O'Connor, that ship has sailed. 

I mentioned Mckirdy but he comes with baggage, diving twonk is a nice description of him. Are we prepared for that type of player ? If he concentrated on football he's decent. 

Carlisle fans say him and Nathan Thomas their best players 

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