Norman Smurthwaite

[Jacko51]

It's very likely he isn't enjoying things at the moment Jean. No Vale fan is enjoying things at the moment. Imagine if you'd spent millions.

 

He hasn't spent millions. When you spend money you don't expect to get it back. It appears Norman does because he has only loaned it, not spent it.

 

"Martino", if you don't mind, I'm Jacko on here and Jean to my friends - of which you are not one. As has been pointed out, it's interesting that you know my name when you had been posting on here for 5 minutes and that was my first response to you. You go on to mention elsewhere that you have never had direct communication with me. Let me tell you a story.

 

I have had PMs on this site from a certain Penny Black. I have, in the last week or so, had a number of emails hinting that they were from the same Penny Black but with an email address that suggested they were actually from a certain Hugh Carr Archer. A gentleman of that name runs an IT company named Aurora which would seem to match with the suggestion that Penny Black was Norman's IT advisor and had been ripped off by the Chairman.

 

One of his latest emails to me contained a considerable amount of information about the proposed sale of the club. The timescale mentioned in the emails didn't ring true to me for reasons I won't go into here. I asked the correspondent why he was telling me this rather than putting it on OVF. I was told it was because he wasn't going to post on here any more because it was full of numpties!

 

It looked to me like I was supposed to leak the information on here to cause a stir. I didn't. I have since had a PM from another member on here who has been told almost exactly the same information but like me, has had the sense not to pass it on. If Norman/Penny Black wants information in the public domain, it's up to him to put it there and not try to use supporters to leak the info.

 

Hugh/Penny/Norman? then sent me another email which contained information that could not possibly have come from someone simply reading Norman's emails. At that point the communication appears to have ended.

 

Now, with Penny Black having told me he is not going to post on here any more, we now have this new member who has appeared on the scene from the Norman Supporters Club.

 

So the questions I would like answered, "Martino" is:

 

1. Are you Norman?

2. Are you Norman's wife?

3. Are you Danni?

4. Are you Danni's bloke?

 

If you say "no" to all those questions I will simply not believe you.

[PENNY BLACK]

He hasn't spent millions. When you spend money you don't expect to get it back. It appears Norman does because he has only loaned it, not spent it.

 

"Martino", if you don't mind, I'm Jacko on here and Jean to my friends - of which you are not one. As has been pointed out, it's interesting that you know my name when you had been posting on here for 5 minutes and that was my first response to you. You go on to mention elsewhere that you have never had direct communication with me. Let me tell you a story.

 

I have had PMs on this site from a certain Penny Black. I have, in the last week or so, had a number of emails hinting that they were from the same Penny Black but with an email address that suggested they were actually from a certain Hugh Carr Archer. A gentleman of that name runs an IT company named Aurora which would seem to match with the suggestion that Penny Black was Norman's IT advisor and had been ripped off by the Chairman.

 

One of his latest emails to me contained a considerable amount of information about the proposed sale of the club. The timescale mentioned in the emails didn't ring true to me for reasons I won't go into here. I asked the correspondent why he was telling me this rather than putting it on OVF. I was told it was because he wasn't going to post on here any more because it was full of numpties!

 

It looked to me like I was supposed to leak the information on here to cause a stir. I didn't. I have since had a PM from another member on here who has been told almost exactly the same information but like me, has had the sense not to pass it on. If Norman/Penny Black wants information in the public domain, it's up to him to put it there and not try to use supporters to leak the info.

 

Hugh/Penny/Norman? then sent me another email which contained information that could not possibly have come from someone simply reading Norman's emails. At that point the communication appears to have ended.

 

Now, with Penny Black having told me he is not going to post on here any more, we now have this new member who has appeared on the scene from the Norman Supporters Club.

 

So the questions I would like answered, "Martino" is:

 

1. Are you Norman?

2. Are you Norman's wife?

3. Are you Danni?

4. Are you Danni's bloke?

 

If you say "no" to all those questions I will simply not believe you.

 

Well it is not me and l am not Smurf

 

But l do hold a lot of info but wasted in the main on this site

[Howjy04]

Jacko,youa skatea ona thina icea.I senda a couple ofa wisea guysa to see you.

 

You'll get yoursa

Toni Peroni aka Martino Knockavelli.

[melv]

Do you think he has purposely let things get this bad?

 

No as it's probably the fans fault in his eyes.

[melv]

Hmm, a brand new member to this forum and he happens to know Jacko is named Jean?

 

Well spotted.

[Bea Smith]

It's very likely he isn't enjoying things at the moment Jean. No Vale fan is enjoying things at the moment. Imagine if you'd spent millions.

 

Shouldn't that be lent millions - or perhaps wasted - and add on 'of someone else's money' at the end.

[Jacko51]

Well it is not me and l am not Smurf

 

But l do hold a lot of info but wasted in the main on this site

 

I thought you'd said you wouldn't post on here again. Not a (wo)man of your word I see.

[melv]

Will you be at the protests on Saturday?

 

Will you be watching out of the window?

[melv]

Jean has had no correspondence from me directly.

 

Indirectly???

[melv]

Good grief, is this life or death?

 

If you are Smurf when are you going to put out a statement of intent.So the fans know what is happening.Then they can decide to buy their ST or not.IF you are not Smurf can you ask him.

[blackdog]

At this stage I don't even want an apology. Just sell for a fair price. Nothing NS can do now will improve things. It will take years of success to win back a large amount of the fans that are staying away. That can't be fixed by NS in my opinion.

 

An apology is just the start, the finish is saying goodbye.

[Yukon]

Well it is not me and l am not Smurf

 

But l do hold a lot of info but wasted in the main on this site

 

He's mixed his two usernames up now!!!

[cheshirevaliant]

Arrogance and stupidity unfortunately are a very bad mix.

[toyahw]

Well it is not me and l am not Smurf

 

But l do hold a lot of info but wasted in the main on this site

clear off Smurf you dill hole. I do hold a lot of information you sent me as "Penny Black". What is the point of this charade? For goodness sake man stop playing games. We're not that stupid. Maybe concentrate on running the club better? Just an out of the box idea.

 

And drop this Penny Black stuff. Anyone with half a brain has worked this out years ago. You are a very silly person.

[Andyregs]

He's mixed his two usernames up now!!!

 

This is just embarrassing.