PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

[Bycarsbill]

4 minutes ago, Valiiant said:

 

It's either pig headedness or sheer delusional that she still believes in and backs Flitcroft as she does. And that won't change anytime soon.

Anyone who thinks we're actually capable of still getting out of this mess and winning enough games to stay up is also delusional. We're back in League Two to stay because of Carol's woeful decision making over the last X period of time.

I never suggested that relegation isn't the more likely outcome.  But if you read the statement closely, there does appear to be an acceptance that DM + team will be more involved in player recruitment issues. If I'm correct in this, it does suggest pragmatism and not pigheadedness.

[efsb]

I’m guessing that specifics (ie DF) were addressed, but the club hasn’t wanted to stir the hornet’s nest just yet, based on the need for united impetus re: relegation. I’d be disappointed if there isn’t more transparency once that situation is resolved one way or another though.

[Wozza4England]

The message is exactly the same as the ‘open letter’. Stop criticising DF, employing DF wasn’t a mistake, get behind the club, no more negative chanting, DF is going nowhere.

[Valiiant]

6 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:

I never suggested that relegation isn't the more likely outcome.  But if you read the statement closely, there does appear to be an acceptance that DM + team will be more involved in player recruitment issues. If I'm correct in this, it does suggest pragmatism and not pigheadedness.

 

Flitcroft has already done major damage regardless of what the club might do to try and rectify that. To keep him in his role is, in my humble opinion, unjustifiable. 

[Valiiant]

3 minutes ago, Wozza4England said:

The message is exactly the same as the ‘open letter’. Stop criticising DF, employing DF wasn’t a mistake, get behind the club, no more negative chanting, DF is going nowhere.

 

And there's plenty of "Just get behind the boys" fans who will be more than content to swallow it all up.

[Tamworth]

5 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:

I picked up on that comment too and hopefully will take a little comfort from it if we are correct in our assumption that DM and his coaching team are going to have a greater say in player recruitment!

I'd like to believe your interpretation is correct but we may be clutching at straws there. It also could mean that Flitcroft's still callling all the shots and that Moore has simply agreed to knuckle under. Let's see.

[Bycarsbill]

1 minute ago, Valiiant said:

 

Flitcroft has already done major damage regardless of what the club might do to try and rectify that. To keep him in his role is, in my humble opinion, unjustifiable. 

Of course, I do agree about the damage that he has done.  I'm just hoping that the comment about DM & coaching team being more involved, is indeed a tacit agreement from the owner that recruitment policy and responsibility may be changing to an extent.  Fingers crossed!

[Wozza4England]

19 minutes ago, ginge said:

I think the cowardly thing to do would to have kept quiet and not met with anyone. Have you or anyone else been to the club to ask if Flitcroft is available to have a chat? Genuinely interested if anyone has tried that as he did say he was available for that on the recent podcast and I'm interested to see if it's true or waffle. 

You mean cowardly in the exact way Flitcroft has hidden from Radio Stoke.

[Bycarsbill]

3 minutes ago, Tamworth said:

I'd like to believe your interpretation is correct but we may be clutching at straws there. It also could mean that Flitcroft's still callling all the shots and that Moore has simply agreed to knuckle under. Let's see.

Or, it could mean that the owner has taken note and we are seeing a subtle change in the playing set-up. I'm pinning my hopes on it!

[Vale Ball]

Ok, despite not being involved I will offer some context. I have been a part of B&G in the past but chose not to be on this occasion.
This was not a meeting that Carol initiated or handpicked. It was set up by some fans and Carol had no say in who attended. I think Hancock facilitated.
The joint statement clearly had to be agreed between the parties. I imagine stuff that was said isn’t in the statement - rightly or wrongly.
The fans who attended gained absolutely nothing. They gave up hours to try and get Carol to see what the fans are seeing - from what I’m inferring through this, to little avail.
PVFC doesn’t exist without Mark Porter.
That’s all I know of it.

So to sum up, the meeting achieved nowt and without Mark Porter the club doesn't exist

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[Walter]

Pointless statement which is just a load of words rather than actually anything of note. 

Do your talking on the football pitch. Where it matters. I'm bored of statements. They mean nothing now. 

Oh and by the way, the club having a sit down with several groups does not fix anything with fan base. None of them people represent me or my feelings for a start. 

If I'd had a royal invite to this cosy chat I'd have told them that the real reason you've had it rough from the fans is because the football side is <ovf censored> and you've not paid attention. You've let someone who has proven to be out of his depth continue to undo the good work on the football side and when fans have voiced concerns you've doubled down. In short, you've brought it on yourselves so <ovf censored> sort it. It's not about the fans. Never has been. They've backed this club and continue to do so.

[Brian Johnson]

11 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:

Of course, I do agree about the damage that he has done.  I'm just hoping that the comment about DM & coaching team being more involved, is indeed a tacit agreement from the owner that recruitment policy and responsibility may be changing to an extent.  Fingers crossed!

Instead of hiding behind corporate spiel, why don' t the club out with a quote that simple folk like me can understand:

"Darren Moore will be in charge of his own recruitment of player's for the 2024/25 season"

Edited March 6 by Brian Johnson

[Smallthorne clampet]

A winning team trumps everything , this is what the fans are crying out for , its up to the club to produce . 

[SuperHuman]

We have been far too reactive, not proactive. 

Should never have come to this, it’s becoming a shambles. 

[Tamworth]

17 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:

Or, it could mean that the owner has taken note and we are seeing a subtle change in the playing set-up. I'm pinning my hopes on it!

Hope you are right of course. I'm just a miserable old git...