We're 17th in the league...

[valefan16]

1 minute ago, smithie said:

There were less than 3k at Stockport v Aldershot (with a good number from Aldershot), and Walsall v Alfreton looked like a very low crowd. None of those sets of fans have a League Cup QF to plan and pay for.

As ever, context and comparison is useful.  

 

Oh yeah I think whilst Crosby probably should leave the FA Cup attendance stick is unfair as it was always going to be terrible, we have 5 home games over Christmas in 17 days for a start and the Middlesborough one is obviously a big pull whilst the league games are ones ST holders have paid for. Look at Burton in the last round at their place.

 

[Birches Head Fred]

silly question, but i know we wont be mid table either.

Does it matter where we are on Dec 31st ?

[MBE]

Just going to leave it here as a reminder.

Last 10 league matches:

1 Win - Exeter ( the only team worst than us statistically over the last 10 matches)

2 Draws : Lincoln, Stevenage

7 Defeats Derby, Shrewsbury, Cheltenham, Peterboro, Portsmouth, BRovers, Bolton

4 Goals Scored

13 Conceded

Over the season:

Average Posession : 50.7%.  Have we dominated possession over the season?

XG 19.5   Goals Scored 15. For context Carlise, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham have a worst record

 

 

[darren1810]

14 minutes ago, Birches Head Fred said:

21 minutes ago, Port Vale Paul said:

silly question, but i know we wont be mid table either.

Does it matter where we are on Dec 31st ?

No nor does it matter we are 17th now. Not sure what the threads getting at.

Is it a badge of honour or something to be proud about ? Tomorrow we could maybe be 15th or 19th. Hopefully won't be another thread proclaiming either of those. 

[darren1810]

2 minutes ago, MBE said:

Just going to leave it here as a reminder.

Last 10 league matches:

1 Win - Exeter ( the only team worst than us statistically over the last 10 matches)

2 Draws : Lincoln, Stevenage

7 Defeats Derby, Shrewsbury, Cheltenham, Peterboro, Portsmouth, BRovers, Bolton

4 Goals Scored

13 Conceded

Over the season:

Average Posession : 50.7%.  Have we dominated possession over the season?

XG 19.5   Goals Scored 15. For context Carlise, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham have a worst record

 

 

Wow didn't realise that bad. 6 noughts and 4 games where we scored 1. 

Atrocious. 

[Brian Johnson]

22 minutes ago, smithie said:

There were less than 3k at Stockport v Aldershot (with a good number from Aldershot), and Walsall v Alfreton looked like a very low crowd. None of those sets of fans have a League Cup QF to plan and pay for.

As ever, context and comparison is useful.  

 

But at the same time, were Stockport & Walsall attendances club record low for the FA Cup?

[TJHValiant]

3 hours ago, johnjeffersfanclub said:

Just going to leave this here as a reminder for many to get a grip.

17th…wow. Isn’t that grand? 

 

[darren1810]

9 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

But at the same time, were Stockport & Walsall attendances club record low for the FA Cup?

And one was live on the telly. 

[Fosse69]

34 minutes ago, MBE said:

Just going to leave it here as a reminder.

Last 10 league matches:

1 Win - Exeter ( the only team worst than us statistically over the last 10 matches)

2 Draws : Lincoln, Stevenage

7 Defeats Derby, Shrewsbury, Cheltenham, Peterboro, Portsmouth, BRovers, Bolton

4 Goals Scored

13 Conceded

Over the season:

Average Posession : 50.7%.  Have we dominated possession over the season?

XG 19.5   Goals Scored 15. For context Carlise, Shrewsbury and Cheltenham have a worst record

 

 

How many of the teams will be in the Championship next season?

[MBE]

9 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

How many of the teams will be in the Championship next season?

Probably the same number of teams who will be in L2 next season.. sorry thats not a justification for how awful we have been. 

[Fosse69]

4 minutes ago, MBE said:

Probably the same number of teams who will be in L2 next season.. sorry thats not a justification for how awful we have been. 

Just normal for most teams to lose one or both games against the promoted teams, however Vale include relegated teams also.

[Birches Head Fred]

No nor does it matter we are 17th now. Not sure what the threads getting at.
Is it a badge of honour or something to be proud about ? Tomorrow we could maybe be 15th or 19th. Hopefully won't be another thread proclaiming either of those. 

Correct, it doesn't matter where we are now.
I think the original post is trying to allude to the fact that at the moment we are (relatively) comfortable league position-wise and there's no need for all of this panic.....just my opinion on the original post.

[MBE]

15 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

Just normal for most teams to lose one or both games against the promoted teams, however Vale include relegated teams also.

Indeed which is why it’s not a defence of the record. 
 

I will be fair though and say away from home we have generally been OK all season, aside a few individual errors which can happen.
 

Its  the home games were I think we’ve been poor not helped by the manager. I think it’s 5 home defeats on the bounce now, I found it amusing when Crosby said this week we haven’t played as many home matches as others. I felt he was insinuating we would be higher in the league but clearly our home form tells us something different.

Thats my main issue with him, I feel like he’s trying to pull the wool over supporters eyes with his comments about stats etc. and it’s clearly <ovf censored>.

[darren1810]

15 minutes ago, Birches Head Fred said:

Correct, it doesn't matter where we are now.
I think the original post is trying to allude to the fact that at the moment we are (relatively) comfortable league position-wise and there's no need for all of this panic.....just my opinion on the original post.

I agree relatively but precarious. Given our next 3 homes as well. 

Time will tell anyway mate. 

[RayWalkers40yarder]

3 hours ago, darren1810 said:

Cheers for that,  cheered me up. 

Here's me thinking that watching the bore that is Port Vale is pure purgatory and listening to the same old drivel spouted by the manager is utter nonsense. Also the worst ever FA cup attendance in 147 years of existence. 

Must be going daft in my old age. Glad everything is rosy .

just goes to show. regardless of what we all think on here ( happy clappers included ) that the general fee paying public will not turn up if the football is pants. and it has been for close to 3 months. you can literally predict what is going to happen every game now and if we can so can everyone else ( including the opposition ). the fact is too much is being put on anything BUT the product on the pitch and its now showing in the attendances. the honeymoon period is well and truly over.