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Port Vale v Carlisle match thread - 21st Dec

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10 minutes ago, Rory said:

Where is anything constructive which you have to offer?

 

10 minutes ago, Rory said:

No chance, sir.

It's crap. It will continue being crap.

Your contribution in a nutshell.

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Hopefully, shake up the squad in the transfer window. I'd get rid of byers. I'm not sure his heart is in it. Can't afford a luxury player.

Just now, Alan Vit said:

 

Your contribution in a nutshell.

Correct.

I'm not bothered about what style of play the vale employ.  There are plenty of ways to skin a cat and I'm not fussed about a football philosophy/identity and all that <ovf censored>.

What does concern me is that we simply never look like scoring or creating anything of our own accord.

We've got no flair or nous and seem to completely rely on something just going for us.  A wonder strike, a fortuitous bounce or defensive switch off.

We don't put teams on the back foot in any way. We don't get down the flanks, we don't bombard the box and we don't knock quick balls around the box.

The bottom team has just visited us and their keepers had bugger all to do and our centre half was given man of the match.

Very disappointing. 

Edited by eh up nah

Last season Tolaj scored 17, Paton 17, stocley 13 and Chizzy 10. Albeit our new arrivals in lower leagues.

if we play these guys so far back of course they are not going to score with Moore Ball. 
 

im still not forgetting that game we started with no striker

we dunna need a striker. We need a midfield 

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Who didn't see that coming from a mile off? We look a side massively suffering in confidence at the moment despite being high up in the league. Confidence is everything in football. Just look at Man City, a team full of world-class players still but can barely string a couple of decent performances together. I've never been and never will be Darren Moore's biggest fan. But while he is getting a lot wrong at the moment, he can't be held responsible for players not being able to pass the ball 5 yards, or missing very presentable chances. The players sent out today should still be more than good enough to perform much better against such a poor side.

Well, it seems we have learned nothing from all these recent games, eh Darren?

When are we going to stop playing this rope-a-dope football?

Simply. Not. Good. Enough.

Just now, philpvfc said:

Thing is, if he played a blinder, best game he’s ever played then he has a 50/50 chance of playing the next game. Play crap and he has a 50/50 chance of playing next game. 

Wonder how many players feel that way at the moment due to all the changes DM and Co make.  The side is changing around a lot and players now having to play out of position to get into the starting 11.

Never easy for them or the fans who watch them.

Well done to Carlisle, wish them all the best. Another team comes to VP play football passing and moving off the ball. They close us down and limit us to the Ripley big hoof up the pitch and it’s 50/50. If we win it we’ve still got no one to pick up the second ball. I could still hear the Carlisle fans chanting when I was on Park Estate walking back to my car, after the final whistle. Fantastic support throughout the game

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Just now, PVFC764 said:

Wonder how many players feel that way at the moment due to all the changes DM and Co make.  The side is changing around a lot and players now having to play out of position to get into the starting 11.

Never easy for them or the fans who watch them.

 

On the other hand, most players are getting starts and a chance to perform but simply aren't. Far too few are doing enough to deserve to keep the shirt the following game.

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2 minutes ago, eh up nah said:

I'm not bothered about what style of play the vale employ.  There are plenty of ways to skin a cat and I'm not fussed about a football philosophy/identity and all that <ovf censored>.

What does concern me is that we simply never look like scoring or creating anything of our own accord.

We've got no flair or nous and seem to completely rely on something just going for us.  A wonder strike, a fortuitous bounce or defensive switch off.

We don't put teams on the back foot in any way. We don't get down the flanks, we don't bombard the box and we don't knock quick balls around the box.

The bottom team has just visited us and their keepers had bugger all to do and our centre half was given man of the match.

Very disappointing. 

You’ve just said you don’t care about the football or an identity or philosophy and then broke down our current identity and philosophy!

Thats not a dig by the way. But you obviously are bothered about how we play. 

3 minutes ago, PVFC764 said:

Wonder how many players feel that way at the moment due to all the changes DM and Co make.  The side is changing around a lot and players now having to play out of position to get into the starting 11.

Never easy for them or the fans who watch them.

Can’t remember the last game that Moore didn’t change half the outfield team. If Moore hasn’t got some sort of clue what our best eleven is by now then we have no hope. 

3 minutes ago, Alan Vit said:
Where is anything constructive which you have to offer?

 

  15 minutes ago, Rory said:

No chance, sir.

It's crap. It will continue being crap.

Your contribution in a nutshell.

 

2 minutes ago, Rory said:

Correct.

You have definitely won in the "odd human being" stakes.

1 minute ago, Playa Amodores said:

Well done to Carlisle, wish them all the best. Another team comes to VP play football passing and moving off the ball. They close us down and limit us to the Ripley big hoof up the pitch and it’s 50/50. If we win it we’ve still got no one to pick up the second ball. I could still hear the Carlisle fans chanting when I was Park Estate walking back to my car. Fantastic support throughout the game

They had a game plan and stuck to it.  We have seen opposition play us and know exactly how we are going to set up - play and they have done their homework and stopped us totally.  

The way they played they will or should move out of the drop zone if they play like they did today.

Lol... "we learn from it going into the Bradford game"

He's been saying that since at least Gillingham.

The evidence suggests we are learning NOTHING.

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