51 minutes ago, Vtid said:

Not sure Ollie & Alfie had made a premier league appearance before they joined? Ollie has since I don’t believe Devine has at all, I could be wrong on that one though but they both proved to be very good players in league 1. This kid made 5 premier league appearances last season. He will destroy league 2 defenders & those big lumps have to get near him first mate. And after he’s ripped the league to shreds he will get called back in January & break all our hearts 😂

First time to say it this season "never fall in love with a loan player" 💓 😍❤️❤️‍🩹

6 minutes ago, Hoppers said:

First time to say it this season "never fall in love with a loan player" 💓 😍❤️❤️‍🩹

He doesn’t come across as someone who will connect with the fans like Ollie did. As talented as Arblaster is & was for us what I really liked about him was he’s so level headed for such a young age & he really took to the fans. He loved it here. I sense a little bit of arrogance with Benicio & can’t see him being as close to the fan base like Ollie was but I hope I’m proved wrong. Seems the sort who just does his talking on the pitch. Ollie was very grateful to be at Port Vale & he said it a few times how much this club meant to him. Some youngsters at big clubs won’t feel that way & maybe think they are bigger & better a bit like Alfie Devine I thought at times but Arblaster is a special kid & a great human being 

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1 hour ago, Guppys left peg said:

Fans of PL clubs always say these kinds of things to be honest. Sometimes they’re right such as Ollie last year but there’s tons where it goes the other way. End of the day can have all the technical ability in the world but never know how they’ll react to some lump from Bromley going through the back of them. Wonder if he would have taken part in that behind closed doors game yesterday?

Always? Not really (Brighton fan in peace here) - we had 20+ loanees out last season, highest number of them was in The Championship, but also Leagues 1 and 2, the SPL, the Bundesliga, the Eredivisie and the Belgian Pro League. These decisions are obviously taken by people at the club who are better at gauging where the optimum level is for each player than we are. Sometimes, TBF, we are surprised, but also TBF, a few of you have decided this loan is a bit of a coup for you.

They've decided League 2 for BBB for now, so fair enough? Good luck to him (and you lot) for the season. Oh, and by the way, there are big lumps in League 1 and the Championship too - they're just faster!

2 appearances for England U20 in 2024, will we have to postpone games again

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3 minutes ago, Wandering Seagull said:

Always? Not really (Brighton fan in peace here) - we had 20+ loanees out last season, highest number of them was in The Championship, but also Leagues 1 and 2, the SPL, the Bundesliga, the Eredivisie and the Belgian Pro League. These decisions are obviously taken by people at the club who are better at gauging where the optimum level is for each player than we are. Sometimes, TBF, we are surprised, but also TBF, a few of you have decided this loan is a bit of a coup for you.

They've decided League 2 for BBB for now, so fair enough? Good luck to him (and you lot) for the season. Oh, and by the way, there are big lumps in League 1 and the Championship too - they're just faster!

Have we got a real talent here pal? What level would you rate him at right now? 

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23 minutes ago, Packmoor Valiant said:

I cannot remember anyone saying that when we signed Ray Walker or Tony Sealy on loan ! Time to recognize how useful loan signings can be if used properly if strengthening a squad and as long as you are not building your team around them !!!

You mean the Ray Walker we bought for 12k. When was the last time Vale bought a Premier loanee? when? 

17 minutes ago, Vtid said:

He doesn’t come across as someone who will connect with the fans like Ollie did. As talented as Arblaster is & was for us what I really liked about him was he’s so level headed for such a young age & he really took to the fans. He loved it here. I sense a little bit of arrogance with Benicio & can’t see him being as close to the fan base like Ollie was but I hope I’m proved wrong. Seems the sort who just does his talking on the pitch. Ollie was very grateful to be at Port Vale & he said it a few times how much this club meant to him. Some youngsters at big clubs won’t feel that way & maybe think they are bigger & better a bit like Alfie Devine I thought at times but Arblaster is a special kid & a great human being 

Arrogance is the last thing the dressing room needs. 

4 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

You mean the Ray Walker we bought for 12k. When was the last time Vale bought a Premier loanee? when? 

Why does that matter? Can’t you just be grateful we’ve spent quite a bit on 10 permanent signings which would have been a fair whack in wages too instead of trying to have a dig at the club for bringing in a great prospect on loan? Just any old reason to slag Vale off! You wonder why people call you a knob head 🙄 

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4 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Arrogance is the last thing the dressing room needs. 

Arrogant as in cocky within his own ability. Another word confident but with an edge to him. Ffs 🤦‍♂️ It’s no coincidence the best players in the world are incredibly arrogant 

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One thing is for sure, I still have no idea what Flitcroft was actually doing in his DOF role as if anything we have been more effective with signings than before. 

27 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:

One thing is for sure, I still have no idea what Flitcroft was actually doing in his DOF role as if anything we have been more effective with signings than before. 

I think Its a big change in how the club is perceived . Last season we were seen a relegation fodder , with a unproven manager and a known DOF who was average at best, that made recruitment haphazard . This season we seen as a big fish , with promotion prospects and a marquee manager , this equates to players wanting to come to us . Long may this continue 

37 minutes ago, Vtid said:

Have we got a real talent here pal? What level would you rate him at right now? 

I'm not going to go against the experts that decided to place him here! They (usually!) know what they're doing - I don't!  He was very good in PL2, but TBH, he didn't set the world alight in five very short cameo appearances in the PL - but there again, it's difficult to turn a match round in 2 or 3 minutes, so I wouldn't hold that against him.

If you want an armchair fan's opinion (albeit one who watches the U21s on stream) who doesn't see the lad in training or have anything like the depth of information that the professionals in the case have, I'd have gone for League 1 if that helps (which of course it doesn't!)

46 minutes ago, Vtid said:

Arrogant as in cocky within his own ability. Another word confident but with an edge to him. Ffs 🤦‍♂️ It’s no coincidence the best players in the world are incredibly arrogant 

Messi isn't arrogant. Most of the Spanish team weren't when they beat England. 

Take a leaf. 

2 hours ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Disappointing that Vale have yet again gone for a loanee

I thought we had seen the end to this Feeder Premier club nonsense 

Don't worry Bill, it's like when we took Keith Lowe on loan from Wolves when you were here. 

3 hours ago, Packmoor Valiant said:

I cannot remember anyone saying that when we signed Ray Walker or Tony Sealy on loan ! Time to recognize how useful loan signings can be if used properly if strengthening a squad and as long as you are not building your team around them !!!

Tony Sealy...my all time fave loan

Ray Walker...what a player

I'm thinking of Alan Lee,David Healy,David Riley...some great loans too