Lincoln City (H) match thread - 24th Feb

[NW9Valiant]

Yikes, that Carol speech is rough. 

5 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

So we have the funds to be a some what sustainable club and have a chance of going up or atleast staying in league 1. I think these foundations off the pitch need to be layed down before we can expect to progress into the top half.

I have to wonder, if this is the strategy, then surely Carol is probably OK with a relegation because we are laying down foundations for all these things. 

Wonder if it's occurred to the club they won't have the revenue to run these things if we are in the league below and don't have the revenue coming in.

Looking very possible we are in League 2, leapfrogged by Crewe while the Stoke are in League 1 with them. 

[Vtid]

5 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

That's probably why we are investing so much in the things that make money off the pitch e.g the academy. So we have the funds to be a some what sustainable club and have a chance of going up or atleast staying in league 1. I think these foundations off the pitch need to be layed down before we can expect to progress into the top half.

Carol only has 10 million in net worth I believe so we can't expect her to be spending millions with the club making almost no profit.

It's probably why less money has gone to the squad. If we had no revenue coming in from off the pitch before its like a sinking ship. A sinking ship floating on the money Carol has. That money would eventually run out. Especially if we went up like she wants us too. So all the investment off the pitch is to plug them holes.

I know I'm going to get hate for what I've said but it's true. 

It's carols money to spent as tactically as she can. She has I'm guessing set a plan up with dof to make the club sustainable. This will generate us more money. Eventually with this we can invest more in the first team.

I've said it before and I'll say it again

@Vtid what's so confusing pal?

 

3 wins in the last 24 league games shows the money should have gone on players not infrastructure. No point having championship facilities if we’re in league 2. You do the fancy stuff after the team is competitive & comfortable in the league. Running before we can walk & it’s backfiring massively. Relegation was not in the 5 year plan so it’s looking like a failure as it’s going. I’m not getting into this again mate it’s so tiring 😂 we all have different opinions I get what you say about some stuff but your missing the point. The important point 

[JohnDoe]

25 minutes ago, Powerline said:

 

There it is again. We didn’t speak to any other applicant. Whether you wanted moore or not, there has to be concern that there has been no thoroughness with manager recruitment or player recruitment under flitcroft. 

[PVFC FAN]

31 minutes ago, Aguar61 said:

Absolutely embarrassing... but it shouldn't be just Carol up there... where is flitcroft? He's a real <ovf censored> of a man, let someone else take the shame for your inadequacy...he needs taking out of football completely...go back to property, wouldn't buy a kennel off him though....

I don't understand you.

You want him gone?

Right let's spend a ton of money on a reliable dof

Right new dof what are you going to do

Invest in a new team?

New dof- I can't the transfer window is over unless you want be to go searching for about 3 months for a free. 

But at that point the season will almost be over dof

 

 

UNDERSTAND

[Rudgiesflatcap]

1 hour ago, WV said:

Griff own goal that bounced over Chris Martin ? 

Luke Prossers back pass vs Macclesfield at Vale Park. 

[Aguar61]

I'd like to think that Flitcroft will step up and support his owner and talk about his role and responsibilities,his real achievement,and how he is delivering for her... not going to happen is it?

[Mellor!]

3 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

If he goes now what is a new dof going to do?

Invest in a new squad?

Oh yeah he can't 

If you said he should go in the summer I could agree, but now?

If he goes now it galvanises the fan base for a final push to stay up. Nothing else will do that. It will stay toxic as long as he's here because we will not progress on the pitch.

[Vtid]

4 minutes ago, soothsayer said:

The scores for the team’s efforts today are straightforward:

Everyone 3/10 bar Dan Jones 1/10, Ripley 5/10 and Ben Garrity 7/10.

I’m sorry but Ripley doesn’t get a 5 from me today pal. Wandering around the pitch nowhere near his goal & passing it straight to their player when he’s 30 yards from his goal is unforgivable. Don’t remember him having too much to do either to be honest 

[Spunk Trumpet]

Just now, WV said:

You can want him out of the club without threats and character assassinations can’t you? 

Let’s keep chanting “David Flitcroft get out of our club”

That will do the trick.

As for character “assasination”. In my opinion he comes across as a narcissistic, manipulative man. 
And given we live in a democracy (just about) I’m breaking no law and don’t give two shiny shites about the man.

What I do care about is the club that I have supported for 40 years and I’ll be damned if I can’t be vocal on a man who is a poison in my club. In my opinion. And Carol can come out with her open letter all she wants but it’s sheer desperation.

I’ve seen narcissists. I’ve witnessed gaslighting. You won’t know if you’re not qualified. The signs are there.

And look. If we go on to win 8 games and stay up I still don’t want him anywhere near this football club. MY football club.

He has way too much power. He got a good man on Colin Garlick the sack. Ask Steve Speed what he thinks of him. Ask Chris Birchalll. Ask Tom Pope. Ask Tom Conlon. I could name more 

So for the GOOD of Port Vale Football Club this man needs removing from the club.

It will happen. But how desperate does his transfer windows and waffle have to be to happen? That’s for the fans to now decide.

[PVFC FAN]

2 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Noone is saying the owner should be spending millions. What we are saying is that there should have been proper recruitment and investment in the team. Whos responsible for that? 

And like I've said. Dof can't because there is probably a small budget. That's why we are investing of the pitch to increase it. I presume for dm to come that didn't come out the budget. I'm guessing it may have come straight out of carols pocket.

[PV1973]

38 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

I can take a player being poor etc mate but what i cant take is a player who cant be arsed... I hate people booing or abusing players but that really does wind me up,if you dont want be here then hand in a transfer request but please put the effort in and look like you care

No matter how bad loft may have been in games I wouldn’t level at him that he hasn’t been trying. Certainly not acceptable that he gets abused  by a fan watching the players come out for a kick about at half time (which is the same very week) and the fan judges that the kick about (it’s not a warm up) isn’t good enough for their tastes. Just another excuse to have a pop at a player. 

Edited February 24 by PV1973

[davehartshill]

PLEASE STOP CALLING HIM FLICKER(s)! 

[PVFC FAN]

4 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

By getting shut now it saves a wage. Too late for any new players that ship sailed on January 31st. So what's he going to achieve between now and the end of April. 

Be less toxic for sure. I'm too apathetic koin in the chanting but there was lots of vitriol as I trooped out after the penalty. 

So who is going to look after the projects that when completed will make revenue to go into the budget. Also I'm pretty sure we would still have to pay his contract even when he is gone. Unless he get a new club.

If we are going to get him gone it is more sensible to do so in the summer or just before end of season.

[darren1810]

Just now, PV1973 said:

No matter how bad loft may have been in games I wouldn’t level at him that he hasn’t been trying. Certainly not acceptable that he gets abused  by a fan watching the players come out for a kick about at half time (which is the same very week) and the fan judges that the kick about (it’s not a warm up) isn’t good enough for their tastes. Just another excuse to have a pop at a player. 

Our warm ups always look one big doss. Often wondered the point at times as it's just one big 15 minute prattling around and has been for years. 

[PVFC FAN]

6 minutes ago, NW9Valiant said:

Yikes, that Carol speech is rough. 

I have to wonder, if this is the strategy, then surely Carol is probably OK with a relegation because we are laying down foundations for all these things. 

Wonder if it's occurred to the club they won't have the revenue to run these things if we are in the league below and don't have the revenue coming in.

Looking very possible we are in League 2, leapfrogged by Crewe while the Stoke are in League 1 with them. 

Is that why we invested in a championship manager, to get us relegated?