Congratulations to Jeremy Corbyn

[mr.hobblesworth]

I am thrilled!

 

Port Vale have a 100% record under JC.

 

On a serious note, I found it inspiring and invigorating to hear a Labour leader state "We don't have to be unequal, it doesn't have to be unfair, poverty isn't inevitable - thinks can and will change.". Corbyn is a huge gamble and the odds are stacked against us, but what have we got to lose?

[geosname]

what have we got to lose?

 

Any chance of forming a government?

Being a credible opposition to the tories?

 

He swings more than a kids playground and some of his ideas are well wide of normality.... but perhaps he will make labour labour again... I hope he does because they are cack at being conservatives.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

Jeremy Corbyn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

 

They have absolutely ****ed themselves for the next 5 years +, it's like the Tories when they put IDS in charge but much, much worse!

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

I am thrilled!

 

Port Vale have a 100% record under JC.

 

On a serious note, I found it inspiring and invigorating to hear a Labour leader state "We don't have to be unequal, it doesn't have to be unfair, poverty isn't inevitable - thinks can and will change.". Corbyn is a huge gamble and the odds are stacked against us, but what have we got to lose?

 

He needs to go and run China or North Korea with his communistic values, he's got about as much chance in the UK as I have of being PM!

[geosname]

He needs to go and run China or North Korea with his communistic values' date=' he's got about as much chance in the UK as I have of being PM![/quote']

 

He has a chance... if he can pull the dissenters around to follow him, which wont be all the way to the left but much further than they have been for many years... it wont be easy.

The only real problem with communism is humans and their greed... take humans out of the equation and it would work perfectly... but that could be said for capitalism too

[mr.hobblesworth]

He needs to go and run China or North Korea with his communistic values' date=' [/quote']

 

Grow up.

[mr.hobblesworth]

Any chance of forming a government?

Being a credible opposition to the tories?

 

and would Liz effing Kendall have provided us with either of those? Andy Burnham? I really doubt it. Instead of the optimism, the unprecedented groundswell of support, the incredible growth in membership, we'd have had another boring identikit politician, talking about 'hard working families'. I know that JC is very far from perfect but if he succeeds in turning Labour in to an inclusive, campaigning party that speaks and works for the people that it is supposed to represent, then I'm glad he won.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

Grow up.

 

So his beliefs don't mirror theirs?

 

I spoke to one of the exec members of one of the biggest trade unions in the UK last week and even he feared for the future of the Labour Party if this crackpot got in.

 

You can mock all you like but imagine if we did actually have someone like that in charge of the country.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

and would Liz effing Kendall have provided us with either of those? Andy Burnham? I really doubt it. Instead of the optimism, the unprecedented groundswell of support, the incredible growth in membership, we'd have had another boring identikit politician, talking about 'hard working families'. I know that JC is very far from perfect but if he succeeds in turning Labour in to an inclusive, campaigning party that speaks and works for the people that it is supposed to represent, then I'm glad he won.

 

Andy Burnham would have been the better choice, left leaning but nowhere near as extreme.

[Robbie Earle's Perm]

He has a chance... if he can pull the dissenters around to follow him, which wont be all the way to the left but much further than they have been for many years... it wont be easy.

The only real problem with communism is humans and their greed... take humans out of the equation and it would work perfectly... but that could be said for capitalism too

 

Takes me back to my days of reading animal farm.

[geosname]

and would Liz effing Kendall have provided us with either of those? Andy Burnham? I really doubt it. Instead of the optimism, the unprecedented groundswell of support, the incredible growth in membership, we'd have had another boring identikit politician, talking about 'hard working families'. I know that JC is very far from perfect but if he succeeds in turning Labour in to an inclusive, campaigning party that speaks and works for the people that it is supposed to represent, then I'm glad he won.

 

Dont misunderstand.... he was he best choice to change labour and it needed changing... I just offered ideas of what could be lost as you asked.... if he can connect the party with the people it used to represent it could be a massive gain

[mr.hobblesworth]

What needs to happen, long term, is for the Labour Party (and, for that matter, the tories) to split. Both parties are too broad a church nowadays. Obviously, this can only happen under a different electoral system but perhaps that might be a factor in deciding the next election?

[bookworm]

I can hear carl shouting UKIP is the only viable alternative,

[Jacko51]

I note that after all his talk about the democracy of the ballot yesterday, Corbyn is going to appoint his shadow cabinet rather than return to the traditional labour method of electing them by the PLP. Mmmm.

[mr.hobblesworth]

The election of the labour (shadow) cabinet was ended back at the start of Ed Miliband's leadership, so JC can't really be blamed for this. I do think that he'll choose as wide a ranging as possible (eng?) cabinet in an attempt to assuage some of the Blairites. Some of the chumps who have resigned can just do one though. He has a massive mandate and for them to then run off shrieking is a disgrace.