Darren Moore

[Spunk Trumpet]

If Moore wants to leave at the end of the season then so be it. I think if he doesn’t want to be here then a parting of the ways is needed for both parties.

If he is to get sacked then that would be a damning indictment on how the club is being run, as that would mean we would be looking for our 5th manager in less than 3 and a half years.

Personally I’d like to see what he can do with a squad that HE can build. If it’s the case he doesn’t want to be here then get someone in who does. 
I would turn to Ainsworth because of his proven pedigree at building a project. And before anyone he says his football was crap, as long as it’s winning football I couldn’t care less. I’ve been bored enough this last 18 months.

Edited April 15 by Spunk Trumpet

[Old School]

I have been away for a short break so I don't know where the Darren Moore to resign if we are relegated has come from. Is it official or a friend of a friend of a friend "heard" it?

[Nippy Naylor]

3 hours ago, PVFC FAN said:

I can't disagree with that. As long as we bring in a dof at some point next season. Not straight away.

We Don't need. DOF ,  🙄

[PVFC FAN]

8 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:

We Don't need. DOF ,  🙄

What's so bad about a dof?

 

[Killersrevenge44]

42 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:

If Moore wants to leave at the end of the season then so be it. I think if he doesn’t want to be here then a parting of the ways is needed for both parties.

If he is to get sacked then that would be a damning indictment on how the club is being run, as that would mean we would be looking for our 5th manager in less than 3 and a half years.

Personally I’d like to see what he can do with a squad that HE can build. If it’s the case he doesn’t want to be here then get someone in who does. 
I would turn to Ainsworth because of his proven pedigree at building a project. And before anyone he says his football was crap, as long as it’s winning football I couldn’t care less. I’ve been bored enough this last 18 months.

Ainsworth will be in a job by the time Moore departs

[darren1810]

4 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

What's so bad about a dof?

 

A luxury a money seeping League 2 club can't afford.

They aren't on 700 quid a week.

[Rockape99]

16 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:

We Don't need. DOF ,  🙄

Yes we do 

[Killersrevenge44]

2 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

A luxury a money seeping League 2 club can't afford.

They aren't on 700 quid a week.

Who is! 

[PVFC FAN]

4 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

A luxury a money seeping League 2 club can't afford.

They aren't on 700 quid a week.

Every team in top 10 od league 2 has a dof. We need a dof. We have the money.

[Fosse69]

Every team in top 10 od league 2 has a dof. We need a dof. We have the money.

Even little Barrow have one, see how Moore does in the Summer, then time to look around before the Jan transfers.

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[Spunk Trumpet]

18 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

Every team in top 10 od league 2 has a dof. We need a dof. We have the money.

Does that make it right? Why follow the trend? Why waste a wage?

Do yourself a favour, if you’re employed by OUR football club, and listen to Tony Pulis on Undr The Cosh. 
He touches on how the manager should be buying the players and it doesn’t work when someone else buys the players.

It’s absolutely scandalous that this was allowed to happen here at Vale. Where a DOF bought the players. A DOF told the manager how to play. A DOF told the manager what formation we will use. A DOF told the manager we are playing our own kids to make money and taking on other teams kids on loan to build relationships. Flitcroft may as well just sat in the dugout every Saturday with the influence and input he was having!

And people say “even Forest Green have one”. 
Yeah. 
Look where they are. 
 

If it’s Moore or whoever. Let that man identify the targets HE wants and nobody else. Let him have the say in contract length. 

It worked for over 100 years. 
We are about to go into the 4th division. 
We’ve already got a ridiculous amount of staff employed at this club. 
 

I’ve always said in the lower leagues managers can complicate football with their modern day coaching ideas. 
I will also say that owners can also complicate football with a DOF, multiple football scientists, other staff who we really don’t need. 
Just keep it simple. 
 

In the last two decades we’ve had Micky Adams and Darrell Clarke who have achieved real success. 
Clarke probably won’t give us time of day anymore but somebody at the club should be going cap in hand to Micky Adams. Asking for his advice. 
Even swallow the (what seems to be from the outside) the pompous attitude and go to Popey, Yatesy, Duffy, Hughesy, Birchall, Griff, Dicko, and others and get their advice.

What would be an absolute catastrophe is signing “nice lads”, putting little videos out of them basically being told what to say when they sign, hiring a DOF who says I’m signing the players, we will play tippy tappy crap, not put in a tackle, and our formation will be 3-5-2 every week.

Been there. Done that. It’s been more of an on field circus this year than under Smurthwaite and I never ever thought I’d say that. 
 

Keep it simple. Manager. His targets. His players. Leave him to manage. Stay away from a DOF. Surround ourselves with good old ex pros who love the club who can offer a touch of advice here and there as we go and let’s get back to being Port Vale Football Club again instead of Port Vale Corporate business.

All the fans care about is the football. 
That’s the biggest learning curve that’s needed.

[Spunk Trumpet]

49 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

Ainsworth will be in a job by the time Moore departs

Not necessarily. 
If we go down and Moore wants out, he quits in two weeks. 

[PVFC FAN]

14 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:

Does that make it right? Why follow the trend? Why waste a wage?

Do yourself a favour, if you’re employed by OUR football club, and listen to Tony Pulis on Undr The Cosh. 
He touches on how the manager should be buying the players and it doesn’t work when someone else buys the players.

It’s absolutely scandalous that this was allowed to happen here at Vale. Where a DOF bought the players. A DOF told the manager how to play. A DOF told the manager what formation we will use. A DOF told the manager we are playing our own kids to make money and taking on other teams kids on loan to build relationships. Flitcroft may as well just sat in the dugout every Saturday with the influence and input he was having!

And people say “even Forest Green have one”. 
Yeah. 
Look where they are. 
 

If it’s Moore or whoever. Let that man identify the targets HE wants and nobody else. Let him have the say in contract length. 

It worked for over 100 years. 
We are about to go into the 4th division. 
We’ve already got a ridiculous amount of staff employed at this club. 
 

I’ve always said in the lower leagues managers can complicate football with their modern day coaching ideas. 
I will also say that owners can also complicate football with a DOF, multiple football scientists, other staff who we really don’t need. 
Just keep it simple. 
 

In the last two decades we’ve had Micky Adams and Darrell Clarke who have achieved real success. 
Clarke probably won’t give us time of day anymore but somebody at the club should be going cap in hand to Micky Adams. Asking for his advice. 
Even swallow the (what seems to be from the outside) the pompous attitude and go to Popey, Yatesy, Duffy, Hughesy, Birchall, Griff, Dicko, and others and get their advice.

What would be an absolute catastrophe is signing “nice lads”, putting little videos out of them basically being told what to say when they sign, hiring a DOF who says I’m signing the players, we will play tippy tappy crap, not put in a tackle, and our formation will be 3-5-2 every week.

Been there. Done that. It’s been more of an on field circus this year than under Smurthwaite and I never ever thought I’d say that. 
 

Keep it simple. Manager. His targets. His players. Leave him to manage. Stay away from a DOF. Surround ourselves with good old ex pros who love the club who can offer a touch of advice here and there as we go and let’s get back to being Port Vale Football Club again instead of Port Vale Corporate business.

All the fans care about is the football. 
That’s the biggest learning curve that’s needed.

Can't be arsed reading that. Why follow the trend? Because it works that's why. Why play with a striker? Because it works. <ovf censored> striker = no goals. Good striker= goals. Works same with a dof but the club is run better or worse.

Edited April 15 by PVFC FAN

[Spunk Trumpet]

10 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:

Can't be arsed reading that. Why follow the trend? Because it works that's why. Why play with a striker? Because it works. <ovf censored> striker = no goals. Good striker= goals. Works same with a dof but the club is run better or worse.

Can’t be arsed reading it. But felt you needed comment.

Its called a forum.

It’s called debate.

If you can’t be arsed to listen to everyone’s debate then get off the forum.

Simple as that.

[PVFC FAN]

48 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:

Does that make it right? Why follow the trend? Why waste a wage?

Do yourself a favour, if you’re employed by OUR football club, and listen to Tony Pulis on Undr The Cosh. 
He touches on how the manager should be buying the players and it doesn’t work when someone else buys the players.

It’s absolutely scandalous that this was allowed to happen here at Vale. Where a DOF bought the players. A DOF told the manager how to play. A DOF told the manager what formation we will use. A DOF told the manager we are playing our own kids to make money and taking on other teams kids on loan to build relationships. Flitcroft may as well just sat in the dugout every Saturday with the influence and input he was having!

And people say “even Forest Green have one”. 
Yeah. 
Look where they are. 
 

If it’s Moore or whoever. Let that man identify the targets HE wants and nobody else. Let him have the say in contract length. 

It worked for over 100 years. 
We are about to go into the 4th division. 
We’ve already got a ridiculous amount of staff employed at this club. 
 

I’ve always said in the lower leagues managers can complicate football with their modern day coaching ideas. 
I will also say that owners can also complicate football with a DOF, multiple football scientists, other staff who we really don’t need. 
Just keep it simple. 
 

In the last two decades we’ve had Micky Adams and Darrell Clarke who have achieved real success. 
Clarke probably won’t give us time of day anymore but somebody at the club should be going cap in hand to Micky Adams. Asking for his advice. 
Even swallow the (what seems to be from the outside) the pompous attitude and go to Popey, Yatesy, Duffy, Hughesy, Birchall, Griff, Dicko, and others and get their advice.

What would be an absolute catastrophe is signing “nice lads”, putting little videos out of them basically being told what to say when they sign, hiring a DOF who says I’m signing the players, we will play tippy tappy crap, not put in a tackle, and our formation will be 3-5-2 every week.

Been there. Done that. It’s been more of an on field circus this year than under Smurthwaite and I never ever thought I’d say that. 
 

Keep it simple. Manager. His targets. His players. Leave him to manage. Stay away from a DOF. Surround ourselves with good old ex pros who love the club who can offer a touch of advice here and there as we go and let’s get back to being Port Vale Football Club again instead of Port Vale Corporate business.

All the fans care about is the football. 
That’s the biggest learning curve that’s needed.

I've looked and it's a load of waffle. Look at forest green at the bottom with a director of football. Look at the teams down there with them with no director of football.