Gerald Krasner

[Tone]

It seemed to me you were just trying to muck-rack in a covert kind of way, hence the question what is your agenda or why did you start the thread?

 

As for not being civil, please tell me where I have not been civil or where I abused you personally?

 

If you want to call it muck-raking, that is up to you. I was just trying to see what people thought about someone who will have a big influence over the future of PVFC.

 

Tell me where I said you had "abused me personally".

[cheeky]

I've got a bright idea; let's start a thread calling into question the conduct of the very people tasked with SAVING our club. Brilliant!

[brookersleftboot]

What do we know about him?

 

He was the Chairman of Leeds before Ken Bates took over and was responsible for selling Elland Road, which is now owned by an offshore company.

 

He was the administrator for Bournemouth and he appointed Alastair Saverimutto as CEO (remember him?).

 

http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/feature/1783404/gerald-krasner-an-unlikely-saviour-leeds

 

 

Krasner is as dodgy as those crooks we just got rid of. Always looking for a fast buck. Should be nowhere near football clubs.

 

But then again i thought we could trust Mr Young, but hes a liar to. His words: i will be leaving the football side alone"

 

What we now know: He is hoiking our players around to highest bidder & pressuring them to go.

 

Collins would have gone anyway, higher league, bigger pay etc and Barnsley were watching him last season. However hoiking Rico around is a joke.

 

Again Mr Young proving he is no better than the scum board.

 

They should be dealing with the bidders & getting a deal done ASAP not sitting employing agents. Utterjoke, Admins are supposed to help!

[brookersleftboot]

I've got a bright idea; let's start a thread calling into question the conduct of the very people tasked with SAVING our club. Brilliant!

 

sorry but these admins are proving to be every bit like the scum 4 with lie after lie.

 

Time they did their job & got a deal done & stopped hoiking players around, if they spent time dealing with the investors on the horizon they wouldnt need to hoik players around.

 

Having researched & spoken to various finance people it seems that if they really wanted to they could between the 3 of them have a prefered bidder by now & be ready to negotiate with creditors.

 

Strikes me that Mr Young so excellent first time around is either having his chain pulled by krasner or is simply not as good as 10yr ago.

[NLVMalc]

You baby faced assassin you.:D:D:D:D

 

What me 'guv

[NLVMalc]

If you want to call it muck-raking, that is up to you. I was just trying to see what people thought about someone who will have a big influence over the future of PVFC.

 

Tell me where I said you had "abused me personally".

 

Still dancing around and not answering my question then ... you brought the topic up about making it personal ...make your mind up...

 

...as you won't say what your motives are, then nothing more to say really, I'll leave others to make their own minds up on why you:

 

i)started the thread

ii) added a link to which you made no comment

 

Muck-racking seems a good definition to me.

[Vale]

Can you really not see where I'm coming from?

 

Craig - I can't because I have clearly heard things differently to you

 

The same as people heard Adams last Saturday and suddenly decided Young had lied to him (not saying you thought that). I heard the same statement and it was clear he was not talking about Young which I mentioned at the time

 

But people can hear things and read many different things into comments. People hear what they want to

 

Statements have been made, but at no point has there been guarantee's. Talk of no players leaving was accompanied by we remain a football club even in admin and players come and go

 

If it was a guarantee then there would be no need for these additional clarifications on commets. Even Adams admitted at the press conference if bids came in for players then the football club would have a duty to weigh up the facts, any money, likliehood of re-signing, whether the manager wants them, etc etc

 

I honestly do not see they have lied and some of the other comments about the administrators are just plain silly in my opinion.

 

Even tonight he clarified his comment that he hoped no more players would leave to say more could before next Thursday

 

Being abusive to the people tasked with saving our club does us no favours. They are professional people who will ignore such comments hopefully, however, they're only human too.

[Vale]

If you want to call it muck-raking, that is up to you. I was just trying to see what people thought about someone who will have a big influence over the future of PVFC.

 

Tell me where I said you had "abused me personally".

 

Tone, where are your threads on Bob Young and Steve Currie if it wasn't a muck raking thread as suggested by Malc?

 

Malc, if you reply to Tone it's personal, I get accused of that nearly everytime I reply now.

 

Like Cheeky says, we get rid of MOLD and start slagging the very people off tasked with SAVING our club. Absolutely effing amazing!!!

 

How long before the council are turned on again I wonder?

[Valiant Haze]

Being abusive to the people tasked with saving our club does us no favours. They are professional people who will ignore such comments hopefully, however, they're only human too.

 

This, i totally agree with and the opening poster has done a good job with his stirring stick, in that respect.

 

For now, we should see how events unfold in the next 7 days before fully judging.

 

The same goes for the potential investors.

[Vale]

This, i totally agree with and the opening poster has done a good job with his stirring stick, in that respect.

 

For now, we should see how events unfold in the next 7 days before fully judging.

 

The same goes for the potential investors.

 

What he said

[Tone]

This, i totally agree with and the opening poster has done a good job with his stirring stick, in that respect.

 

No, he was not abusive to the person concerned. He just asked for people's opinions on Mr Krasner's record taking account of (please note 2ValiantB) the couple of links and the comments in the articles.

 

Time will tell...

[ICK]

This, i totally agree with and the opening poster has done a good job with his stirring stick, in that respect.

 

For now, we should see how events unfold in the next 7 days before fully judging.

 

The same goes for the potential investors.

 

I'll dig out some stuff from PVO from the last time you were in admin. The OP's opinion of the administrator was markedly different then as it suited his agenda. IIRC he had a particularly unchristian view toward making staff redundant as it would help the horse he backed in there efforts to gain control.

 

Given the lack of nous displayed when throwing all in with BSI and Miller I'd have expected him to keep his own counsel, much like DF, and let those who are shrewd enough not to be taken in by it have the floor.

 

I'll put my stirring stick away now, at least I can recognise when I've got it out.

[Santa]

Krasner reminds me of Kenneth Baker's Spitting Image puppet.

[bycars rob]

I've got a bright idea; let's start a thread calling into question the conduct of the very people tasked with SAVING our club. Brilliant!

 

Verry highly paid saviours.