Black Lives Matter

[geosname]

1 hour ago, Iron Curtain said:

Ahhhhh the cheap “feelings“ shot.

RB refuses to answer how he interpreted my comment.

And now you have jumped on the cheap shot bandwagon. You also seem to have interpreted it wrong. So what exactly in your head was I trying to say when I mentioned Robbie’s “feelings”?

How are you interpreting that?

I have no idea.

I'm not

[geosname]

1 hour ago, Iron Curtain said:

Wiggle wiggle... 

im asking you, as a man, who clearly has opinions on things.

Do YOU, personally, forget the law, think it was ok?

How do you forget the law?

[Iron Curtain]

8 minutes ago, geosname said:

I have no idea.

I'm not

Thought not 

[geosname]

43 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

Yes.  If you deliberately remove the context to enable to argue that an act isnt racist then you are in fact trying to make the racism ok on a technicality, which in itself is inadvertently racist.

Just like when Geo asked me if I was ok.  Remove the context and it's a nice gesture but in fact the context meant he was being derogatory and therefore offensive.  The words themselves were not offensive, the context in which they are presented determines that they were.

That is not a difficult concept to grasp, in fact its something we teach kids as parents from an early age when we pull them up for how they might speak to us.

Arguing differently is just pedantic and semantic which is only serving to tarnish your own position.

You are right racists should be laughed at, be careful though because the corner you and a couple of others have painted yourselves into is also laughable.

So who decides the context?

The writer or the reader? 

[Iron Curtain]

7 minutes ago, geosname said:

How do you forget the law?

You have lost me.

I have never once said what he did was against the law.

Sleeping with your mates mrs begins his back isn’t against the law... are you saying that’s ok too? 

[Davebrad]

28 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

It most certainly was not ok.  It was an act deliberately timed to undermine the message of support that football has give to the BLM movement, that's racist and it's not opinion because it just is.

It's not ok.   It just isnt and its staggering that anybody thinks it is.

Just because no law has been broken does not remove the context in which that banner was displayed - if people cant see that then as I have said before you are part of the reason why there is a problem in 2020.

The outright racist isnt the problem, they are who they are and will remain on the fringes of society forever.  It's the moderate white person who simply does not believe or want to believe that they themselves are being racist.  We are all in that boat, myself included.  We dont mean to be and we support equality but we stop short of owning the problem..

Just think about it a bit more.  It really wasnt ok.

i was answering a question about the banner, and i replied yes  it was alright to me, then i said ok as a question back...

and what about modern day slavery? Feb. 2004 Morcombe Bay, 21 chinese illeagle immigrants killed, east europeans comming here for jobs and ending up as sex movement workers, its still here in this country happening now, but thats not fashionable as the blm

[Fosse69]

Context meaning : the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.

,Also: the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.                 

 

  I hope it helps

[geosname]

2 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

Thought not 

It's not for me to try to determin what you are trying to convey. 

I care little for feelings.

[Iron Curtain]

2 minutes ago, geosname said:

So who decides the context?

The writer or the reader? 

Either way the bloke from Burnley’s hooligan crew who has photos of himself with Tommy Robinson all over his social media doesn’t come across well.

His Facebook has been deactivated after saying he will apologise to absolutely f*****g no one. He used a lot of the same sentences I have read on here, something about “it’s apparently racist to say white lives matter apparently“. He doesn’t care about context either! 

[Iron Curtain]

2 minutes ago, geosname said:

It's not for me to try to determin what you are trying to convey. 

I care little for feelings.

So it’s ok for someone to sleep with their mates wife behind their back?

No law broken.

You care little for feelings apparently.

Crack on! 😂😂😂😂

[geosname]

6 minutes ago, Nofinikea said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It matters not if something was meant to be offensive, if it offends it is by definition its offensive.  You cant just say what you want and claim you didnt mean offence....  well you can but that just makes that person an individual with zero integrity.

I don't personally care about offending people. Yes I can say what I want at any time if I am prepared to suffer the consequences. In public I can say what I want within the law...... that's the essence of free speech 

[Fosse69]

2 minutes ago, Davebrad said:

i.

and what about modern day slavery? Feb. 2004 Morcombe Bay, 21 chinese illeagle immigrants killed, east europeans comming here for jobs and ending up as sex movement workers, its still here in this country happening now, but thats not fashionable as the blm

Covered by employment law, H&S, etc .  Lack of an ID system, tracking where people live.. Who benefits from cheap labour?   Pure political problems nothing to do with  long standing racialism .

[geosname]

2 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

So it’s ok for someone to sleep with their mates wife behind their back?

No law broken.

You care little for feelings apparently.

Crack on! 😂😂😂😂

That's not something I would choose to do.... but if that's your predilection help yourself

[Davebrad]

32 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

Yeah, bet Robbie would instantly see the error of his ways after that genius speech. 😂😂

Spoken like a guy on the Right side of inequality! 

“hey guys, yeah yeah I get it, you want equality, but don’t cause a ruckus hey. Do it quietly and slowly... we will get there in the end, might take us ages and ages but you can put up with that right... I’m all for change but not in a way that challenges me or my kind in any way yeah. Trust us, I know we haven’t given you equality yet, but we will promise”

Legge is on twitter now, talking about the Banner and BLM. Why not see what he says to your statement... I can take a guess.

 no i'm not, i'm saying what do you want us to do, cut our wrists tattoo my ancestors were slave traders, but the way this as been hijacked by err black power remember them?

and when we finally get back Vale, if they ask the crowd to kneel, which the way crazy ideas are going now they can uck off...

 

[Iron Curtain]

1 minute ago, geosname said:

That's not something I would choose to do.... but if that's your predilection help yourself

Why not?

It doesn’t break a law, you don’t care for feelings... something must be stopping you.

Maybe you are not this machine of no emotion who sonly follows the law to its absolute letter after all.

Maybe there are lines of decency.

Maybe you just choose to draw them at a different place to others.

Thats fine but it makes this “I live by the law and don’t care about feeling” nonsense all look a bit silly.