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It was a tv program not a football match, so why make a stupid comparison?

 

I didn't think it was a stupid comparison at all. If you only watch 10 minutes of a 90 minute programme you are hardly in a position to pass judgement on the whole thing. If you only watch 10 minutes of a 90 minute football match you are hardly in a position to pass judgement on the whole game. Why does that seem stupid to you?

 

It would have been perfectly sensible for you to say that you watched the first 10 minutes and didn't think it was up to much so swtiched off but to condemn the whole progamme as c rap when you saw so little of it was silly imho.

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To be honest I was a bit disappointed with it. I didn't find it particularly funny or touching and I was a little concerned that the way it was portrayed , it looked like the footballers in particular were laughing at him rather than with him.

 

I knew Neil as a young man when he first started hanging around at Keele. Me and my mates used to play footy with him, and we nicknamed him 'Stan' as he was always trying to dribble (and was absolutely unco-ordinated and hopeless). Tbh, a lot of people did laugh at him, call him a **** and worse. Its how a lot of people whom we now describe as 'special needs' or 'with learning difficulties' were treated at that time.

 

I think, given Neil's situation, most of it went straight over his head anyway! I thought it was a great programme and that Toby Jones did an excellent portrayal of Neil Baldwin.

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It was portrayed truthfully. Some were/would be like that and others were like macari. Why sugar coat it. The whole point was how he doesn't let that kind of thing get to him. Like the scene with the boxer shorts. When at Keele there were those who would sit down and have a natter with him, and those that would try and scurry off or hide. Thankfully the vast majority saw him positively and he became a part of the place.

 

He's still part of the place. Saw him in the SU at lunch time having a coffee, reading the Sentinel and having a natter.

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He's still part of the place. Saw him in the SU at lunch time having a coffee, reading the Sentinel and having a natter.

 

I fully expect him to be there until he's no longer able. Probably sitting in his seat near the entrance. It's his surrogate family now. There are many places that would move him on, and I'm quite proud of how the university and especially the student union, treated a genuine guy who needs people around him, who just turned up one day and never left.

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And would we all have been interested if it didn't have local connections? Just a thought.

 

It was always going to be an added interest but overall I was more fascinated with his personality and character, I'm still not sure if he was a learning diff or was just eccentric, probably a bit of both as he supported Stoke..:rolleyes: either way he wanted to be happy and decicided to be so...you can't argue with that!! :thumbs:

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It was always going to be an added interest but overall I was more fascinated with his personality and character, I'm still not sure if he was a learning diff or was just eccentric, probably a bit of both as he supported Stoke..:rolleyes: either way he wanted to be happy and decicided to be so...you can't argue with that!! :thumbs:

 

In the years I first met him, we just thought he was eccentric. Though he does have learning difficulties, he'd probably disagree. I love that quote though.

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It was always going to be an added interest but overall I was more fascinated with his personality and character, I'm still not sure if he was a learning diff or was just eccentric, probably a bit of both as he supported Stoke..:rolleyes: either way he wanted to be happy and decicided to be so...you can't argue with that!! :thumbs:

 

He is not just an eccentric. He does have learning difficulties.

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