Is Atheism Irrational?

[For Us All]

I am most impressed religion wise by Buddhism and Taoism. I feel that much of the scientific output is too bottom up and not top down in terms of creationism and Taoism bridges the gap explaining how logic and programming can substantially exist mathematically throughout the universe with a force that doesn't involve a god like figure from Christianity.

 

Nonetheless, I have become questioning of astronomy and astro physics generally. I ask are we living in a giant computer programme and why are stars so far away. The nearest is 4 light years and unreachable by a carbon life form such as humans ever. So do these stars exist are are they part of a computer programme whey enough always comes in to existence whenever an exploration needs it to to provide evidence for beliefs that everything is real.

 

I see that Sri Lanka are deporting a British worth for having a tattoo of Buddha on her arm?

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Their country, their rules

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Really gone off the deep end now!

You have mentioned this top down instead of bottom up idea before, and when asked to explain you disappeared. At the moment,what you have said means nothing without any more explanation or context. You can't write off the whole of science with one meaningless sentence.

As for the computer programme, it has as little (or as much) evidence for it as creationism, the spaghetti monster, or a world on the shell of a giant turtles (turtles all the way down). Just because you can imagine it doesn't make it rational, and is absolutely no basis to start questioning Astronomy. And even if we take a massive jump and presume it is true, it doesn't answer anything. Who are running he computer...etc...etc...back to where we started.

 

All he said was he was questioning "astronomy and astro physics generally"..not that he'd reached any conclusions. Just asking questions..isn't that where science starts from? I don't see anywhere we he has done anything like "write off the whole of science with one meaningless sentence". Of course it's a basis for asking questions..the answer might be that it's a load of codswallop but it's still a basis for asking questions..it's called a hypothesis isn't it?

 

"Who are running the computer"? That which created it and programmed it obviously ;)

[JOHNNYAITCH]

In the uk Christians do tend to be less extreme,

 

Or even not extreme at all..to suggest that all are extremne is ridiculous

 

Also, you last comment is close to being extremely offensive. Unless you are suggesting a link between being gay and abusing children, is it immoral for a gay person to want to became a priest?

 

Agreed..except not close..but actually for me is offensive

[Tone]

What's the definition of an "extreme" Christian?

[Andyregs]

Everything from being Sexist, homophobic and prejudiced, to going to war.

[Tone]

Everything from being Sexist, homophobic and prejudiced, to going to war.

 

I would contend that pretty much everyone we know can, at one time or another, be guilty of those things, to one degree or another.

[For Us All]

Their country, their rules

 

I'm 100% behind that,when do we start over here?

[Andyregs]

I'm 100% behind that,when do we start over here?

 

Who's laws do we follow?

[Andyregs]

I would contend that pretty much everyone we know can, at one time or another, be guilty of those things, to one degree or another.

 

I'd disagree with that, though I'm not sure how much of a defence of religion that is? What is true however is that religion is not the basis of morals (and anyway, such laws have been written in stone way before the Ten Commandments). And I'd add that I've never started a war.

[Paul6754]

Who's laws do we follow?

 

The country that you're in.....when in Rome......

[Andyregs]

The country that you're in.....when in Rome......

 

Of course. THough he was suggesting we didn't?

[Tone]

I'd disagree with that, though I'm not sure how much of a defence of religion that is? What is true however is that religion is not the basis of morals (and anyway, such laws have been written in stone way before the Ten Commandments). And I'd add that I've never started a war.

 

Can you illustrate how the Ten Commandments have not shaped the moral absolutes of the world?

 

Yes, they included some laws that were practiced prior to Moses, but I would contend that, in the western world at least, laws and the morals behind them have been based on Judeo-Christian principles. Until now.

 

As to how it affects religion, as far as Christianity is concerned Jesus illustrated a number of examples of how we are incapable of keeping God's law and provided the perfect solution.

[For Us All]

Who's laws do we follow?

 

Brussels.

 

http://metro.co.uk/2013/01/15/nadia-eweida-wins-religious-discrimination-case-against-british-airways-3352449/

[For Us All]

There appears to be a revival,thank God for the Polish Catholics.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10790495/Former-archbishop-of-Canterbury-We-are-a-post-Christian-nation.html