Blue Sky - where from?

[Spunk Trumpet]

Alan,

 

I understand it was Deakin's deal and was set up in America as others have said.

 

We are currently trying to get Perry Deakin to an Open Meeting where it would be a great first question.

 

So many lies previous though Dave. People just dont believe what comes out of there mouths.

 

Why should we start now?

[the old bycars tea bar]

Unfortunatly the true legacy of bratt and co will be felt for years to come

 

They have lost the trust of many it will take time and action from those who now proclaim to be in charge, not easy

[Spunk Trumpet]

Unfortunatly the true legacy of bratt and co will be felt for years to come

 

They have lost the trust of many it will take time and action from those who now proclaim to be in charge, not easy

 

Indeed.

 

Mr. Bratt will be remembered as not part of a group who brought the club out of admin but the main person who divided the fanbase of this great club to potentially irrepairable levels.

[WEMBLEY OF THE NORTH]

Hint: They are not as fat, as a rule. I can normally spot non Americans in the USA.

 

Is that Fatist?:D

[Tone]

i've just driven 7000kilometres around the u.s.a. in 4 weeks and i didn't even meet another englishman, does that make any difference, or is it a coincidence.

 

We don't have kilometres here (or kilometers) so that must be a lie.

 

 

Hint: They are not as fat, as a rule. I can normally spot non Americans in the USA.

 

I think I will start a thread on here where everyone has to declare their weight and Body Mass Index. Might be interesting.... ;)

 

 

I can't believe the conspiracy theories on here. Well, I guess we should expect them, it is par for the course.

 

They met through network connections - we all do it, everybody has them - it does not imply a "connection" in the sense that some are suggesting.

 

There is no business connection between Ameriturf and Blue Sky.

 

Let's focus on the important issues.

[cplowe1]

We don't have kilometres here (or kilometers) so that must be a lie.

 

 

 

 

I think I will start a thread on here where everyone has to declare their weight and Body Mass Index. Might be interesting.... ;)

 

 

I can't believe the conspiracy theories on here. Well, I guess we should expect them, it is par for the course.

 

They met through network connections - we all do it, everybody has them - it does not imply a "connection" in the sense that some are suggesting.

 

There is no business connection between Ameriturf and Blue Sky.

 

Let's focus on the important issues.

 

BSI and Ameriturf are definitely very separate beasts, in that the latter was a very small scale supplier of artifical turf where as BSI (if you believe what you read, and I have no reason not to) is also a manufacturer and is run by Hank the artificial grass king Yank. Hank is clearly not short of a bob or two and holds the patents for some artificial turf produced by the big boys. Ongoing income. So although BSI looks on paper a very small company I bet it is really the "holding company" for Hank's ongoing activities in the artificial turf field (pardon the pun) and the conduit for his future plans. Are the two linked? I would be astonished if not in some very small way, by franchise or something for example. Does this matter? Not to me, what did Ameriturf ever do at us anyway? The only thing would be if we were getting a bit more "economy with the truth" from Messrs ML and PD. Essentailly for no good reason, that I can see.

[PVTony]

The two companies may not be linked, but couldone or more of the directors have shares in each company?

Two totally different companies but owned by the same person/s.

 

It seems too much of a coincidence that two artificial turf companies required the sevices of P.V.F.C. to promote their business in the U.K.

[The Man in the Stand]

Indeed.

 

Mr. Bratt will be remembered as not part of a group who brought the club out of admin but the main person who divided the fanbase of this great club to potentially irrepairable levels.

 

:clap::clap:

[Alan Baker]

They met through network connections - we all do it, everybody has them - it does not imply a "connection" in the sense that some are suggesting.

 

There is no business connection between Ameriturf and Blue Sky.

 

Let's focus on the important issues.

 

Sorry Tone, I can't agree with you 100%. Surely all of this has to be seen against a backdrop of 8 years of lies and deceit.

 

Perhaps it's not significant it's another turf manufacturer but the lack of facts, IMHO, in Deakin's replies still beg many questions.

[Stone Valiant]

Sorry Tone, I can't agree with you 100%. Surely all of this has to be seen against a backdrop of 8 years of lies and deceit.

 

Perhaps it's not significant it's another turf manufacturer but the lack of facts, IMHO, in Deakin's replies still beg many questions.

 

Surely the fact that there are many still unanswered questions for yourself, mean that just as you cannot accept Tone's answer, neither can you dismiss it out of hand.

 

At present you are just speculating. My own due diligence thru contacts in the US has informed me that the two organisations are seperate companies, although they have at times had similar employees.

 

BSI is a larger company, that is a manufacturer and supplier of Artificial turf and sports and stadia equipment. They may, from time to time, supply to smaller franchise companies such as Ameriturf, but can also operate in direct competition with them for the supply and installation of such equipment.

[Caroline Oakes]

Surely the fact that there are many still unanswered questions for yourself, mean that just as you cannot accept Tone's answer, neither can you dismiss it out of hand.

 

At present you are just speculating. My own due diligence thru contacts in the US has informed me that the two organisations are seperate companies, although they have at times had similar employees.

 

BSI is a larger company, that is a manufacturer and supplier of Artificial turf and sports and stadia equipment. They may, from time to time, supply to smaller franchise companies such as Ameriturf, but can also operate in direct competition with them for the supply and installation of such equipment.

 

Similar employees? Do you mean numbers of OR the same people working for both companies?

[Stone Valiant]

Similar employees? Do you mean numbers of OR the same people working for both companies?

 

I mean somone with experience working within this field or industry may well have worked for one company and then after quitting that company, gone to work for the other!

[Alan Baker]

Surely the fact that there are many still unanswered questions for yourself, mean that just as you cannot accept Tone's answer, neither can you dismiss it out of hand.

 

At present you are just speculating. My own due diligence thru contacts in the US has informed me that the two organisations are seperate companies, although they have at times had similar employees.

 

SV

 

I didn't think that I was dismissing it out of hand and I am speculating as I hope that you are too.

 

I just feel that there is a much bigger story behind all of this and let's hope it's to the betterment of our Club.

[Caroline Oakes]

I mean somone with experience working within this field or industry may well have worked for one company and then after quitting that company, gone to work for the other!

 

I didn't think Ameriturf had many employees, so do you mean people such as the CEO?

[Stone Valiant]

I didn't think Ameriturf had many employees, so do you mean people such as the CEO?

 

Everyone and anyone, including directors, etc is classed as an employee of the organisation, but don't try to draw any kind of conspiracy theory from this. Plenty of people moev jobs from one company and because they are specialist in that field, end up working for either a competitor or partner company in the same field!

 

I didd the same myself years ago. I ran my own IT consultancy company that operated as supplier and competitor in the UK for Borland products, but eventually sold up and went to work for Borland fulltime. Nowt dodgy about it!