Where is the money coming from?

[Spunk Trumpet]

This Bluesky investment are not actually offering any hard cash to cover losses.

Mike Lloyd says we need 5800 to break even. We didnt even get that against Shrewsbury when we were 3rd so god help us over the next few cold months.

 

So, presumably, we are making a loss.

 

IF the plans from Bluesky go ahead (I doubt it) then the RW suite etc, will not be ready for a good long while, therefore no money is going to be generated from the Bluesky project for a long while to come.

 

So, in the meantime, who keeps the club afloat and can we avoid administration?

[Jimmy]

We have 8M in the Bank Trumpers....No problem plenty of Wonga......We are the Man City of Div2...........Where have you been .

[Spunk Trumpet]

We have 8M in the Bank Trumpers....No problem plenty of Wonga......We are the Man City of Div2...........Where have you been .

 

So the naive moronic few would have you believe Jimbo!

[Jimmy]

So the naive moronic few would have you believe Jimbo!

 

.........................................

[Stone Valiant]

So the naive moronic few would have you believe Jimbo!

 

As compared to the niaive, speculative gossip mongering, guess working, ill informed few.

 

Don't pass judgement on that which you don't know about. It reflects badly on you!

 

You know nothing about the details of the deal, which you have readily complained about, and yet come on here spouting rubbish as though you know all the details and it's all crap. I challenge you to provide me with one shred of documented evidnce on this deal to back up your crackpot theories!

 

Have you seen the books? Thought not!

Have you seen the detail of the deal? Thought not!

 

So I suggest you keep your own council on such matters until you are fit to pass judgement

[Spunk Trumpet]

As compared to the niaive, speculative gossip mongering, guess working, ill informed few.

 

Don't pass judgement on that which you don't know about. It reflects badly on you!

 

You know nothing about the details of the deal, which you have readily complained about, and yet come on here spouting rubbish as though you know all the details and it's all crap. I challenge you to provide me with one shred of documented evidnce on this deal to back up your crackpot theories!

 

Have you seen the books? Thought not!

Have you seen the detail of the deal? Thought not!

 

So I suggest you keep your own council on such matters until you are fit to pass judgement

 

 

Here he is!! Resident i know everything but cant tell!!

 

Have i seen the books?? No ****er has!!!

Detail of the deal?? Id love to!! Maybe its just yourself who has seen that, oh special one.

 

And, il pass judgement on what i want cheers.

 

Now then... Back to my original question.

[cheeky]

As compared to the niaive, speculative gossip mongering, guess working, ill informed few.

 

Don't pass judgement on that which you don't know about. It reflects badly on you!

 

You know nothing about the details of the deal, which you have readily complained about, and yet come on here spouting rubbish as though you know all the details and it's all crap. I challenge you to provide me with one shred of documented evidnce on this deal to back up your crackpot theories!

 

Have you seen the books? Thought not!

Have you seen the detail of the deal? Thought not!

 

So I suggest you keep your own council on such matters until you are fit to pass judgement

 

So you're saying we're ill informed. Do you therefore agree that the club cannot be "open and transparent" as they'd like us to believe. If we are ill informed, that is again down to Deakin and Lloyd failing to disclose details of the investment to the fans. What are fans supposed to do. It's ok on one hand people being happy that we hav3 "£8m" in the club coffers, but when any pertinent questions are asked, it is frowned upon.

 

I cannot provide documented evidence on this deal. I could also say in return that your comments are crackpot theories and I challenge to you provide documentary evidence to support them. All we've had so far is "I know something you don't know". Why should I believe you without evidence?

[scoob]

bet even the initial £400k will be drip fed

[Stone Valiant]

Well come on then ST and Cheeky, tell us all what you know if you are to be believed above all others!

 

Attack the argument, not the person. And stop the playing the I know...you know" card to discredit me, been there, done that, don't give a flying fish what you think about that!

 

I was merely giving you freindly advice not to go down the route you have. Some point quite soon, you will suddenly realise how silly you have made yourselves look!

 

Crackpot theories borne out of ignorance! O ye of little (or no) faith!

[The Master]

After 8 years of lies and bull**** you wonder why people have lost faith!!

[cheeky]

Well come on then ST and Cheeky, tell us all what you know if you are to be believed above all others!

 

Attack the argument, not the person. And stop the playing the I know...you know" card to discredit me, been there, done that, don't give a flying fish what you think about that!

 

I was merely giving you freindly advice not to go down the route you have. Some point quite soon, you will suddenly realise how silly you have made yourselves look!

 

Crackpot theories borne out of ignorance! O ye of little (or no) faith!

 

So, you are challenging people to provide evidence in support of their theories, but fail to provide evidence when challenged in support of your own. You think my theories are crackpot because I have no evidence, just supposition. I think your theories are crackpot because you have no evidence and are just suposition.

 

And that last comment is completely disrespectful. I can only theorise based on the information in the public domain. Your comment to me smacks of "I know more than you, don't question me", as if you are better than the average Vale fan. This is what happens when heads get turned by a little bit of information, fed to the right gullable person to divide and conquer. This is why we are where we are.

 

In the past I'm positive you've called for openess and transparency, and now as soon as you're privvy to the inner circle, you change. Belittling people who aren't "in the know", and saying you're not willing to "betray a confidence". For us all, my back side. As George W once said (and my father likes to quote), "he who harbours a terrorist, is a terrorist". You're just as bad as the people you are now protecting. Talk about two faced.

[the old bycars tea bar]

After 8 years of lies and bull**** you wonder why people have lost faith!!

 

the crux of the matter

[Burslem Academicals]

5,800 break even stated by the acting Chairman....gates not even close so big losses expected....this is fact as is the fact that the Board voted against change therefore only 400k under the 24.9% rule can be invested....so just how long will this 400k cover the loss and the poor season ticket sales....as for the details about the building of Camelot and projects for the disenfranchised and bored of the community who feel they nolonger have a football club they own

obviously only insiders can comment.

[Stone Valiant]

So, you are challenging people to provide evidence in support of their theories, but fail to provide evidence when challenged in support of your own. You think my theories are crackpot because I have no evidence, just supposition. I think your theories are crackpot because you have no evidence and are just suposition.

 

And that last comment is completely disrespectful. I can only theorise based on the information in the public domain. Your comment to me smacks of "I know more than you, don't question me", as if you are better than the average Vale fan. This is what happens when heads get turned by a little bit of information, fed to the right gullable person to divide and conquer. This is why we are where we are.

 

In the past I'm positive you've called for openess and transparency, and now as soon as you're privvy to the inner circle, you change. Belittling people who aren't "in the know", and saying you're not willing to "betray a confidence". For us all, my back side. As George W once said (and my father likes to quote), "he who harbours a terrorist, is a terrorist". You're just as bad as the people you are now protecting. Talk about two faced.

 

No I do not think I am better than the average Vale Fan - Statement!

You call me gullable - I call you prjudiced!

I'm not privvy to the inner circle and I have not changed, it is simply that you will not accept that change is happening

AND NOW YOU COMPARE ME TO A TERRORIST!

 

Now you have sunk as low as you can get! I want a public apology - NOW!

[fairportnick]

No I do not think I am better than the average Vale Fan - Statement!

You call me gullable - I call you prjudiced!

I'm not privvy to the inner circle and I have not changed, it is simply that you will not accept that change is happening

AND NOW YOU COMPARE ME TO A TERRORIST!

 

Now you have sunk as low as you can get! I want a public apology - NOW!

 

You are becoming ridiculous , it sounds like you have lost the argument . Calm down its only a game.