Cyber crime

[The Blue Lion]

Google and McAfee estimate there are 2,000 cyber attacks every day around the world, costing the global economy about £300bn a year.

 

In the wake of a third attack on the Talk Talk database, there are calls for 'immediate action' on cyber crime.

 

Our concern may well be how fast is immediate? This organised crime is one that appears to be always one step ahead.

 

Apparently on the dark web, wherever that is, stolen data from Talk Talk has been 'up for sale'.

 

It's long been my view that the internet and its attraction for misuse and its loan to anonymity is helping to destroy our world and while that is perhaps extreme to some, it is a notion borne out of fear of the unknown.

[robf]

This is probably a good time to remind people that the only data we have on OVF is your username, password and email address (so we hold no details of your postal address, bank account etc). Our donation page is hosted by Paypal and secured by them.

 

However, it is worth bearing in mind that one way people get access online is that people use the same password for multiple accounts. Then if they hack one site they try the same email/password combination on all the popular email/bank/shopping sites just in case.

 

So, if you use the same password on OVF as you do for your email/bank account etc please change it just to be on the safe side.

 

One simple method of an unhackable but memorable password is to make up a sentence. I don't use any of these but these are great password combinations that no automated, non-Vale fan would get but are easy to remember if you are a Vale fan...

 

Ray_Walker_Spurs_FA_Cup!

Autoglass_Trophy_Final_1993!

Roy_Sproson_842_Games!

 

So, you see you can have a memorable Vale-related password that's going to be difficult to crack. The key is to separate the spaces with underscores, use a combination of upper and lower-case characters and add a special character (in this case an exclamation mark) at the beginning or end.

 

I hope that's useful - to change your password go to this page - http://www.onevalefan.co.uk/forum/profile.php?do=editpassword

[smithie]

Maybe vale and talktalk could get together and discuss how to set up a defence against known weaknesses.

[Warren]

Tal Talk could save BT and their Champions League folly. Sky have increased profit and lowered customer churn and countered the BT boradband sale effort based on combing cheap BT football with a BT Boradband package. But then came along Talk Talk to lose a pile of their customer base. I have only ever talked to a few people who have passed through the hands of Talk Talk, but they all had adverse comments about disputes and payments and contract and service etc. Are they cheap and nasty inherently?

[The Blue Lion]

Maybe vale and talktalk could get together and discuss how to set up a defence against known weaknesses.

 

Very good.

 

Millwall are currently in talks with Nat East.

 

But good points made by robf, I'm lazy about passwords or at least used to be, using the same one for multiples. These days I have a range of alphanumerics.

 

Best of luck to Vale today as well.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

It is not as difficult as might be imagined for companies to protect data..too many just don't do what they can do

 

The scammers are clever though when it comes to getting data from individuals and if they try enough people enough times even a low hit rate is worth the effort..be vigilant and never give bank details where you have not initiated the 'conversation' is a mantra I live by and never give a PIN..you will never be genuinely asked for it

[Bea Smith]

Most people will know of this trick, but if just one person reading this is saved from a scam, then it is worth posting.

 

If you are telephoned and they try to get your trust by suggesting you ring back - and they will say YOU look up the bank number, or ring back any number you choose, they hold the line open and put a recorded ring tone on so that you are convinced you have rung a safe and reliable number as you chose to dial it.

 

The call was never cut off - but this is so convincing that most people will spill all their details after this trick, and then suffer the consequences.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

If you wait a few minutes before calling back the call will have been disconnected; BT automatically disconnects calls after two minutes of inactivity where one party has hung up.

 

Best practice is to wait 5 minutes no matter what pressure the caller puts on you to call back straight away or call back from a different phone if possible

 

Can't emphasise enough..NEVER give out your PIN as you'll never be legitimately asked for it

[The Blue Lion]

If you wait a few minutes before calling back the call will have been disconnected; BT automatically disconnects calls after two minutes of inactivity where one party has hung up.

 

This kind of system has also helped idiots like me who order £30 from an ATM but walk off leaving it in the machine.

 

Of course five minutes later when I realised and went back the money had gone but on reporting it to Nat East, they told me that after a period of time if the cash is not removed then the machine takes it back in.

[The Blue Lion]

Police investigating the TalkTalk cyber attack which potentially compromised the data of more than four million customers last night arrested a 15-year-old British schoolboy.

 

Detectives executed a search warrant at the teenager’s home, which was last night being searched by specialist officers. The boy, from County Antrim, Northern Ireland, was taken into custody and was awaiting questioning last night by cyber crime investigators.

 

The arrest of a child in connection with one of the country’s most damaging hacking incidents will raise further serious questions about the security measures put in place by TalkTalk.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11956438/TalkTalk-15-year-old-boy-from-County-Antrim-in-Northern-Ireland-arrested-for-alleged-hacking.html

[Howjy04]

This kind of system has also helped idiots like me who order £30 from an ATM but walk off leaving it in the machine.

 

Of course five minutes later when I realised and went back the money had gone but on reporting it to Nat East, they told me that after a period of time if the cash is not removed then the machine takes it back in.

 

Ate The Money.Don't you know anything BL?;)

[JOHNNYAITCH]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11956438/TalkTalk-15-year-old-boy-from-County-Antrim-in-Northern-Ireland-arrested-for-alleged-hacking.html

 

I'm waiting to find out for certain if the data in the Talktalk DB was encrypted or not. I know it's not a legal requirement for personal data to be encrypted (I think it should be a legal requirement) but I'd still be quite shocked if it were not

[For Us All]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11956438/TalkTalk-15-year-old-boy-from-County-Antrim-in-Northern-Ireland-arrested-for-alleged-hacking.html

 

I blame the parent.