Ched Evans to sign? Please Smurf NO.

[TheSage]

No-one is saying that he should not get a second chance, despite his despicable crime.

 

But in another walk of life, not as a highly paid, high profile footballer, as a role model.

 

If I'd committed the same offence I would not be allowed to walk back into my old job and neither should he. I'd have to do something else.

 

He hasn't technically served his sentence yet as he was sentenced to 5 years in 2012 and is out on payroll.

 

Why anyone should want him anywhere near PVFC baffles me.

[bookworm]

typical lazy journalism from the gutter press,best ignore it

[FATBOYSTEVE]

Which saddo billy no life has raised this thread again !?

[blinkme]

Which saddo billy no life has raised this thread again !?

 

it's a new thread because a newspaper reported that we were poised to announce him as a new signing tomorrow. however, now that it's been vehemently denied by the club, may as well lock/delete the thread as it ain't needed

[melv]

Which saddo billy no life has raised this thread again !?

 

Some clueless,incompetent clown from the Daily Star.

[PV1993]

Its not a respect for women for gods sake. Its called morality and the crime he has commited is unacceptable in society.

 

If that's what 'it is' then you're wrong, I'm afraid. He's served his respected time, rightly or wrongly, and therefore - as a civilised society - he should be allowed to assimilate back into society.

 

Also, people who are saying he doesn't appear remorseful - he literally can't whilst his appeal is underway. How do you not realise that? If he came out and said 'I'm sorry for my wrong doing' it would completely go against his stance. He is actually rather remorseful for what he's done, he just feels wrongly accused of the rape element.

 

Ched has been given a bit of a raw deal. Most of the 150 thousand people who signed the anti Evans petition aren't even football fans. I've never known sheffield utd have attendences as high as that anyway.

 

Where I go to university I have a lot of friends who are from the area of the crime, and even know the supposed victim - and none of them can believe what's happened, nor do they believe her for a second. She's tried to pull this kind of thing many times before.

 

There's a lot of evidence in support of Evans' case, however that's not to say that he isn't guilty. However, whilst the case is still underway it's a tricky situation. To be honest I don't think he himself should be considering a return to football until his appeal is over.

[blinkme]

If that's what 'it is' then you're wrong, I'm afraid. He's served his respected time, rightly or wrongly, and therefore - as a civilised society - he should be allowed to assimilate back into society.

 

Also, people who are saying he doesn't appear remorseful - he literally can't whilst his appeal is underway. How do you not realise that? If he came out and said 'I'm sorry for my wrong doing' it would completely go against his stance. He is actually rather remorseful for what he's done, he just feels wrongly accused of the rape element.

 

Ched has been given a bit of a raw deal. Most of the 150 thousand people who signed the anti Evans petition aren't even football fans. I've never known sheffield utd have attendences as high as that anyway.

 

Where I go to university I have a lot of friends who are from the area of the crime, and even know the supposed victim - and none of them can believe what's happened, nor do they believe her for a second. She's tried to pull this kind of thing many times before.

 

There's a lot of evidence in support of Evans' case, however that's not to say that he isn't guilty. However, whilst the case is still underway it's a tricky situation. To be honest I don't think he himself should be considering a return to football until his appeal is over.

 

i can think of someone who got a worse deal

[PV1993]

i can think of someone who got a worse deal

 

what I mean is he's served his time and now he should be allowed back into society. Or is there a rule that says once you;re out you still can;t do anything? Prison is a place of rehabilitation. If people have a problem that he has been released that's not his fault - if you want to blame anyway blame society.

 

I'm not siding with him in any way, but nor am I totally against him. He served half of a 5 year sentence, which is perhaps far too short for his crime.

[vog]

what I mean is he's served his time and now he should be allowed back into society. Or is there a rule that says once you;re out you still can;t do anything? Prison is a place of rehabilitation. If people have a problem that he has been released that's not his fault - if you want to blame anyway blame society.

 

I'm not siding with him in any way, but nor am I totally against him. He served half of a 5 year sentence, which is perhaps far too short for his crime.

 

He hasn't served his time. He has served half of his time, and is spending the rest of his custodial sentence on licence, knowing that if he commits another crime, he will be put back into prison to serve the rest of his time.

 

As for coming back to be a footballer, why should he? There appears to be this thought that any other profession would instantly allow him back to work, but that just isn't true. If he were a lawyer for example, he would not be allowed to register with the SRA due to his conviction, so there are jobs that a criminal simply isn't allowed to walk back into. Due to footballers being in the public eye so much, they should be held to a higher standard because they are, whether we like it or not, role models. Why should a convicted rapist be allowed to be a role model? I'm sure there are other jobs for him, it's not as if he has a physical ailment that would stop him from doing manual labour, so let him do that, just don't let him be a role model to children.

[FATBOYSTEVE]

If he was a member of the royal family he wouldn't be the subject of all this media they wud get it qui shed

[ELDERBEZZA]

Smurf's response.

 

http://goo.gl/ukTb3z

 

Maybe time to close thread down

[Little_Al]

There are certain professions where conviction for a crime would automatically result in the withdrawal of the licence to practise. Playing professional football is not one of them so there is no legal reason why Evans should not play football again. I am concerned that groups of people are trying to take the law into their own hands. They wish to state that Evans has no right to judicial review or should not have the opportunity to find a place in society. If you think the law is wrong then try to convince the law makers - the political parties and the members of parliament. Don't attempt mob rule to victimise a convicted criminal who has served his time and has obviously shown regret for his actions whether they were illegal or simply ill-advised. If he had not done so, he would not be allowed out on licence with restrictions placed on his actions.

[blinkme]

There are certain professions where conviction for a crime would automatically result in the withdrawal of the licence to practise. Playing professional football is not one of them so there is no legal reason why Evans should not play football again. I am concerned that groups of people are trying to take the law into their own hands. They wish to state that Evans has no right to judicial review or should not have the opportunity to find a place in society. If you think the law is wrong then try to convince the law makers - the political parties and the members of parliament. Don't attempt mob rule to victimise a convicted criminal who has served his time and has obviously shown regret for his actions whether they were illegal or simply ill-advised. If he had not done so, he would not be allowed out on licence with restrictions placed on his actions.

 

again, why is this so hard for some people to understand

 

not wanting him to find a place playing football is NOT the same as not wanting him to find a place in society

[FATBOYSTEVE]

The best use for daily newspapers was found by my grandad he would cut em up in squares and put em on an old nail on his outside toilet wall then use em to wipe his **** with saved a fortune on toilet paper

[OakhillDave]

There are certain professions where conviction for a crime would automatically result in the withdrawal of the licence to practise. Playing professional football is not one of them so there is no legal reason why Evans should not play football again. I am concerned that groups of people are trying to take the law into their own hands. They wish to state that Evans has no right to judicial review or should not have the opportunity to find a place in society. If you think the law is wrong then try to convince the law makers - the political parties and the members of parliament. Don't attempt mob rule to victimise a convicted criminal who has served his time and has obviously shown regret for his actions whether they were illegal or simply ill-advised. If he had not done so, he would not be allowed out on licence with restrictions placed on his actions.

 

I'm pretty sure my employer wouldn't have me back after committing such crime.