same sex adoption

[Birdy]

Two caring parents is usually better than one irrelevant of the sexuality of those parents. Having said that one caring parent is better than two who abuse, irrelevant of the sexuality of those parents. The majority of peodofiles are men and hetrosexual therefore we should ban them.

 

This is purely based on homophobic attitudes and yet more unsubstantiated nonsense, without any rational evidence. Nout new there!

[Valenick]

Andy 90% of single parent have no option ie death separation violence most I know try their best but married couple is the best option

[JOHNNYAITCH]

I'm trying to ignore you but when you blatantly lie i'll have to reply. I said atrocities happened in all religions and their books contained plenty more. I argued that it wasn't fair to judge a whole religion/ethnic group by the actions of a few, and pointed out the hypocrisy of those maintaining that such actions were a symptom of, and unique to, one religion. So please do me a favour and **** off you weird little man.

 

I wish you would ignore me instead of posting this nonsense

 

Made my points on this previously and you came back with nothing cos you know I'm right. You come across as so driven by your anti-religious stance that you link incidents just cos of some tenuous religious connection.

 

As to the insults, accusations and swearing....doesn't warrant a comment

[JOHNNYAITCH]

I actually work in a children's home it's fantastic place to grow up the kids get everything behaviour dependant of course

 

But would it not generally be better for them to grow up in a family environment? A gay couple may provide that.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

A woman can choose to get pregnant by whatever means and raise the child on her own, perfectly natural

 

A man could find himself raising his child on his own, perfectly natural

 

The point has to be wherever the child ends up will they be loved, cared for and raised in a responsible safe manner. Sadly many children in 'natural' man/woman parental arrangements are not that lucky

 

I hope no one is suggesting that a child rasied by same sex parents will 'inevitably' become homosexual cos of this?

[mr.hobblesworth]

I actually work in a children's home it's fantastic place to grow up the kids get everything behaviour dependant of course

 

Except for the security of a loving family, getting tucked up of a night and knowing that their parents love them. Or by 'everything', do you mean becoming institutionalised as a child, life long issues with self worth, insecurity, loneliness & mental health, and a hugely increased likelihood of educational underachievement, criminalising and/ or suicide?

[JOHNNYAITCH]

I actually work in a children's home it's fantastic place to grow up the kids get everything behaviour dependant of course

 

I am confident that the vast majority of kids in children's homes are well looked after and the staff to their very best for them; indeed they are possibly better lookled after than many kids who are in a family environment.

 

But if the kids can be given a loving family environment where they are well cared for whatever the sexuality of the 'parents' then

that surely has to be better than being in a home?

[Valenick]

Except for the security of a loving family, getting tucked up of a night and knowing that their parents love them. Or by 'everything', do you mean becoming institutionalised as a child, life long issues with self worth, insecurity, loneliness & mental health, and a hugely increased likelihood of educational underachievement, criminalising and/ or suicide?

What a load of rubbish

[Valenick]

I am confident that the vast majority of kids in children's homes are well looked after and the staff to their very best for them; indeed they are possibly better lookled after than many kids who are in a family environment.

 

But if the kids can be given a loving family environment where they are well cared for whatever the sexuality of the 'parents' then

that surely has to be better than being in a home?

ja you make a strong case I can't disagree it's just my opinion mate your right we try to give love understanding but like you say we can't give what they want most a family but it's up to them to achive the best they can

[JOHNNYAITCH]

What a load of rubbish

 

Yeh that was unfair..I am sure that by "everything" he meant that the staff do their very best for them and the kids are provided with everything that they can provide for them

 

yes some kids will suffer as a result of having to be in a kids home but for me they are very much the exception

[JOHNNYAITCH]

ja you make a strong case I can't disagree it's just my opinion mate your right we try to give love understanding but like you say we can't give what they want most a family but it's up to them to achive the best they can

 

Wish you all the best in what you do..I'd find it too emotionally draining

[Valenick]

Wish you all the best in what you do..I'd find it too emotionally draining

Johnny it's the best job in the world I used to be a carpet fitter now I hope I do make a difference to some of the kids thank you I know kids have had problems with homes in the past but were a new breed who do try their best

[mr.hobblesworth]

What a load of rubbish

 

Says the man who uttered the idiotic words "it's fantastic place to grow up the kids get everything [sic]".

 

The less people like you that there are working with LAC, the better as far as I'm concerned.

[mr.hobblesworth]

Johnny it's the best job in the world I used to be a carpet fitter now I hope I do make a difference to some of the kids thank you I know kids have had problems with homes in the past but were a new breed who do try their best

 

The intrinsic problem isn't with the homes. You can change, adapt and bring in as many new policies and procedures as you like. The fact remains that no matter what environment children are looked after in outside their family home, it leaves them open to a wide range of extremely damaging issues and impacts detrimentally. Seriously, I do think that you should have a look at the myriad reports on how being a LAC impacts on a person's life. (I tried to amend my previous comment as I wrote it when pretty annoyed (sorry!) but I do think you need an awareness that these places aren't "great places to live".)

[geosname]

childrens homes are a substitute for homes for children, its not the ideal solution but better than some I have seen. The system, like any other, is open to abuse. the consequences of that abuse are usually devastating.

The last childrens home I visited here contained hundreds of little souls of all ages from new borns to teenagers, my initial visit was to ask what they needed most [baby milk and nappies] and to see what else I could supply, a quick trip around tesco filling baskets with essentials and several baskets with none essentials [plastic toys, crayons and pencils, colouring books, etc] a barter with the manager for a discount [which was spent filling more baskets] I hired a van and delivered the goods.... what I did not know was that the kids who benefit are gathered around and sing you a song in thanks... it was too much for me so my wife had to sit through it while I hid away and cried [just like now at the memory]. Out of the cities its different the poorest families send their children to the temple and the monks take care of them or to relatives or even none relatives if its a new mouth to feed.

 

It didnt make me feel better giving a few hundred pounds... seeing 4 kids faces light up when I gave them a few cheap toys to replace the broken one wheeled car they were sharing gave me an incredible high followed by a crushing low... I dont go personally any more but I still have things delivered