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2 hours ago, Regal Beagle said:

Don't give David Lammy any sort of higher responsibility than he already has if you want to even pretend like you can win the next election.

 

The man is an absolute lunatic.

No suprise that you don't like Lammy

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35 minutes ago, ginge said:

No suprise that you don't like Lammy

Why is that Ginge?

 

His terrible politics?

His disgusting divisive opinions?

His multiple inaccuracies when trying to drum up propaganda for his ludicrous opinions?

Him single handedly wiping £8m+ off the comic releif effort because he cannot help up but race bait?

 

Shadow justice minister....Someone who freely uses racist conspiracy theories and tries to politically profit from the holocaust. You've had an absolute stinker already Sir Keir.

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Fragrant Emily,Ed Milliband,Wrong  Daily and Big Gob Dave added to the shadow cabinet.

20 more years!! 20 more years!!

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22 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

He was at that school because he passed the 11+ not because his parents were well off. I went to a grammar school because I passed the 11+ then went to a university pretty much on a par with Leeds. Does that make me elite??!!

I passed my 11+ as well. Didn’t go to Uni but did Up to A level at Grammar School. It’s funny how people are inversely snobby about working class kids being clever and succeeding. I also learned that Middle class/Rich kids started with a massive advantage.

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57 minutes ago, Regal Beagle said:

Why is that Ginge?

 

His terrible politics?

His disgusting divisive opinions?

His multiple inaccuracies when trying to drum up propaganda for his ludicrous opinions?

Him single handedly wiping £8m+ off the comic releif effort because he cannot help up but race bait?

 

Shadow justice minister....Someone who freely uses racist conspiracy theories and tries to politically profit from the holocaust. You've had an absolute stinker already Sir Keir.

Is it true that he's already put a complaint in to Sir Keir about the lack of diversity in his Cabinet?

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1 hour ago, For Us All said:

Is it true that he's already put a complaint in to Sir Keir about the lack of diversity in his Cabinet?

As one of Bozzers backers on here, I ask the question where is the diversity in the Tory cabinet, they are all Old Etonians and rigid Brexiteers.

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39 minutes ago, tommytunstall said:

As one of Bozzers backers on here, I ask the question where is the diversity in the Tory cabinet, they are all Old Etonians and rigid Brexiteers.

Very BAME though compared with Labour?

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7 hours ago, ginge said:

Looking alright so far. 

Would like to see Clive Lewis, David Lammy and Rosena Allin-Khan added.

Anneliese Dodds - Shadow Chancellor is very well qualified academically in relevant fields. Battled her way up to be a senior lecturer at Aston University and never had a job outside academia and politics. So massively out of her depth, even if there is the brain power. 

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11 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Very BAME though compared with Labour?

“The new shadow cabinet has been described by Labour as "gender-balanced", with 17 women and 15 men. 

It also has seven members from black, Asian and minority ethnic backgrounds.”

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4 hours ago, Regal Beagle said:

Why is that Ginge?

 

His terrible politics?

His disgusting divisive opinions?

His multiple inaccuracies when trying to drum up propaganda for his ludicrous opinions?

Him single handedly wiping £8m+ off the comic releif effort because he cannot help up but race bait?

 

Shadow justice minister....Someone who freely uses racist conspiracy theories and tries to politically profit from the holocaust. You've had an absolute stinker already Sir Keir.

If hes had such a stinker, who would you have chosen instead? 

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3 hours ago, For Us All said:

Is it true that he's already put a complaint in to Sir Keir about the lack of diversity in his Cabinet?

No that's made up like a lot of your posts.

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2 hours ago, tommytunstall said:

As one of Bozzers backers on here, I ask the question where is the diversity in the Tory cabinet, they are all Old Etonians and rigid Brexiteers.

The Government that the people wanted. And very diverse in terms of ethnicity. 

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I think we need to just forget about bloody diversity and give the jobs to the ppl that can do them, this leads a team to success. What a poor world we live in when we have to put ppl in place through minority representation. Hence if the best ppl are from minority groups then give the jobs to these ppl as they are the right ppl for the job. Don’t give in to pressure.

An example of ppl in the wrong positions are Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbotts

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1 hour ago, ginge said:

If hes had such a stinker, who would you have chosen instead? 

RB has given reasons why he thinks he shouldn’t be there. You give reasons why he should.

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5 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

I think we need to just forget about bloody diversity and give the jobs to the ppl that can do them, this leads a team to success. What a poor world we live in when we have to put ppl in place through minority representation. 

Yes, but you can’t say that these days!

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12 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

Yes, but you can’t say that these days!

Phil, that’s the problem. I would vote for the best person, not who or what they represent, I’m not a shallow person and I judge ppl on how they perform and nothing else. If Mr Blobby was the best applicant for the job then that’s it he gets the job.

I’d like to think of myself as a genuine person, with decent morals and standards, which is how I was raised. 

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Totally agree, I don’t care if they are black, white, yellow, pink with green spots, gay, straight, transvestite, tall, small, fat or thin as long as they are the best person for the job it does not matter. People should not be judged by their looks, ethnicity or what they do or don’t like, all these equality measures have gone too far. People shouldn’t be discriminated against but on an equal note people shouldn’t be given positions to even up numbers.

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6 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

Totally agree, I don’t care if they are black, white, yellow, pink with green spots, gay, straight, transvestite, tall, small, fat or thin as long as they are the best person for the job it does not matter. People should not be judged by their looks, ethnicity or what they do or don’t like, all these equality measures have gone too far. People shouldn’t be discriminated against but on an equal note people shouldn’t be given positions to even up numbers.

Who has been given a postion to even up numbers?

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10 hours ago, Playa Amodores said:

Phil, that’s the problem. I would vote for the best person, not who or what they represent, I’m not a shallow person and I judge ppl on how they perform and nothing else. If Mr Blobby was the best applicant for the job then that’s it he gets the job.

I’d like to think of myself as a genuine person, with decent morals and standards, which is how I was raised. 

Anti-Racism = Not considering race at all

 

If you consider someones skin colour when hiring/judging/electing/supporting or anything else, then that is a form of racism. "positive" or negative discrimination, if you allow one type of racism then you risk allowing others.

 

That's my main gripe with it. All of my political principles are that everyone is equal. It's why I hate the hypocrissy of the left so much. There are so many juxtapositions in left wing (especially identity) politics it is untrue.

 

Feminism v Transgenderism

LGBT v Islam

Diane Abbot v Priti Patel

Anti-democracy v Brexit

Isreal/Judaism

Language and thought policing

 

These are all areas where many on the left may hold completely contradictory views. It was exposed in the General Election when you had Jo Swinson looking like a deer in headlights when a caller on a radio show asked her to define "woman" (go and check that out on youtube if you have not seen it, it's staggering). It also threatened to play a part in the Labour leadership contest early on, when the Trans issue came up and sent the candidates diving for cover.

 

My philosophy on race is that I treat everyone the same. Part of my belief based on that is if you treat a black MP differently to a white MP, that is racism. It's happened on here many times, people almst arguing that we should have lower expectations or a lower bar for bame people because they've faced discrimination in the past. I find that idea to be so damaging to the interests of society. I don't want anyone to apply lower expectations to me in any circumstances. If I succeed I want to know it's because I worked hard, had the ability and determination to earn it, not because there were too many white/black/asian/male/female/trans/gay people and so I skipped to the head of the queue.

 

The craziest part is that there are people on this forum who will read this post and think "yeah, RB is racist". Scary.

 

 

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