Match Thread - EFLT Walsall v Port Vale

[PV1993]

It's a conundrum because if clubs don't get compensation they won't invest. The irony is the bigger clubs have category one status and get the largest compensation. Maybe 12500 a year should apply to all clubs. 50000 for Agho is an insignificant sum to Man City if they really want him at 16. By and large category 3 clubs aren't going to pay transport costs for youngsters from out of their area to attend training so Walsall would be unlikely to take players from Vale or Crewe. I suppose the other option would be to progressively reduce the number of players a club can register through the age groups, so young players get released from the bigger clubs and get a chance to try somewhere else.

 

Perhaps the fairest way to ensure correct compensation would be for fees to be incentive based? So the standard fee of 12500 or whatever it was plus X amount if they play so many minutes/games etc for the club, plus a small percentage of the sell on fee.

 

As you say clubs like City can afford to pay what to them is peanuts for someone who might not even make it to the first team, or in younger cases, u18 etc. At least this way if a player does go on and make a name for himself at least the Vale or whichever lower league club would get the correct compensation.

 

At the moment the rich get richer and lower league clubs lose out time and time again - despite claims that the Sky/BT money will 'filter down'. It would be interesting to see how much does filter down through the English game and how much goes abroad.

[PV1973]

It's a conundrum because if clubs don't get compensation they won't invest. The irony is the bigger clubs have category one status and get the largest compensation. Maybe 12500 a year should apply to all clubs. 50000 for Agho is an insignificant sum to Man City if they really want him at 16. By and large category 3 clubs aren't going to pay transport costs for youngsters from out of their area to attend training so Walsall would be unlikely to take players from Vale or Crewe. I suppose the other option would be to progressively reduce the number of players a club can register through the age groups, so young players get released from the bigger clubs and get a chance to try somewhere else.

At the time of the introduction of EPPP it was said by Bratt off the record that they felt the lower league clubs were being railroaded in to accepting it by the Premier League by them tying it to the amount of money that was being cascaded down. Sign this and you'll get his kind of thing. So even though they weren't happy about the levels of compensation being offered they intimated they had little choice but to accept it. When you see the levels of compensation then you can understand why.

 

The days of big fees for young players have gone, its all about sell on clauses now. There may even be something about sell on clauses in the EPPP charter.

[Heatwave]

At the time of the introduction of EPPP it was said by Bratt off the record that they felt the lower league clubs were being railroaded in to accepting it by the Premier League by them tying it to the amount of money that was being cascaded down. Sign this and you'll get his kind of thing. So even though they weren't happy about the levels of compensation being offered they intimated they had little choice but to accept it. When you see the levels of compensation then you can understand why.

 

The days of big fees for young players have gone, its all about sell on clauses now. There may even be something about sell on clauses in the EPPP charter.

 

It's wrong though isn't it?

 

I don't know the financial cost of the input a club has in a player - training etc - but £50k probably wouldn't realise much of a profit if, say, a lower league club had them at under 9 level.

[valefan16]

Stoke it is then....

[JRC]

It's wrong though isn't it?

 

I don't know the financial cost of the input a club has in a player - training etc - but £50k probably wouldn't realise much of a profit if, say, a lower league club had them at under 9 level.

 

Probably averaged over all the players the cost is less than 50k but they are tapping up the lads most likely to make it. It's a reverse incentive ... The harder a club tries to develop players the more they lose. Some youngsters are turning down bigger clubs as they see more chance of first team football.