Donald Trump, beautiful and wonderful human being

[bookworm]

wum!

 

behave yourself jacko.

[Jacko51]

behave yourself jacko.

 

I will if you will!!

[Valenick]

You may not have dreamed it but I certainly didn't see it and no one knocked on my door.

Oh I apologise didn't realise you were blind my bad

[TeenValiant]

Is that the clip where he mocks the disabled or the one where he slags off Mexicans? Have you got the one where he insults a woman because of her appearance?

 

There is a whole YouTube channel on him Hobble, and trump actually watches the videos himself

[cheeky]

You say you don't need religion to know right from wrong.....maybe that's not the point of what I am trying to say. Just because you do what is right for you as an individual based on common Law it doesn't mean you uphold Christian values, such as helping people, and treating people with the right sense of humanity.

 

The country and indeed the world, in general is a ruthless selfish place and many people who say they are not a follower of religion and are atheist basically are selfish people at heart.

 

Thou shall not steal thou shall not kill....they are solid Christian values. That is why we do not have a Christian state beheading people and throwing people off buildings for being gay. We are better than that because we value individuals rights to be free and express their true selves as long as it is within Chritianity

 

There's an irony in your post, which you probably haven't noticed with regards to your belief that the Christian way is the only way and the right way. Yet you decree Islam, and Muslims in general, for their belief in their religion.

 

I don't see that religion defines whether a person is good, or a person is bad; that is down to the individual on a personal level. Further a lot of your post is supposition; atheists are generally "selfish people"? You don't know anything about me, my beliefs, what I do/don't do. You're stereotyping me as an aetheist just as Trump/you/bookworm are stereotyping Muslims.

 

You also never answered my question about which Christian values we should follow; those in the Old Testamemt, or those in the New Testament.

[cheeky]

Your still missing the points cheeky it's one family and a mentally ill idiot it's not a cult like Islam is with millions of followers the scary part is they are like ants thousands of them in their own colony's

 

So essentially, what you're saying is Islam, a religion, is a cult. And every follower of Islam has the potential to be a terrorist.

 

Why would it be different for me to say the same about Christianity and the followers of that particular religion based on the Christian man who carried out the shootings/bombings in Norway a couple of years back? There are millions of Christians in this country living together. Would you describe them as ants living in colonies?

[whotobeakiller]

There's an irony in your post, which you probably haven't noticed with regards to your belief that the Christian way is the only way and the right way. Yet you decree Islam, and Muslims in general, for their belief in their religion.

I don't care about Islam. I don't treat Muslims any different to other people unless they give me good reason to. Unfortunately there seems to be a hate coming from certain sections of the Muslim community, towards the other ethnicity in society. I treat people with courtesy, manners and respect in a general sense..that's the way i have been brought up. But I couldn't give two hoots about Islam..and I don't want to know...it's not ignorance at all. I was born a christian and that's the way I should be accepted from all other races like Muslims.

 

I don't see that religion defines whether a person is good, or a person is bad; that is down to the individual on a personal level. Further a lot of your post is supposition; atheists are generally "selfish people"? You don't know anything about me, my beliefs, what I do/don't do. You're stereotyping me as an aetheist just as Trump/you/bookworm are stereotyping Muslims.

But now your making an assumption about me. My comment was aimed at your comment saying 'That you knew the difference between right or wrong". That isn't what Christianity teaches us..it is how we interact with our fellows humans that is the underpinning principle...your comment seemed to dispel that.

You also never answered my question about which Christian values we should follow; those in the Old Testamemt, or those in the New Testament.

 

I should think Christian values are common sense really without having to look in any Bible.

[cheeky]

I don't care about Islam. I don't treat Muslims any different to other people unless they give me good reason to. Unfortunately there seems to be a hate coming from certain sections of the Muslim community, towards the other ethnicity in society. I treat people with courtesy, manners and respect in a general sense..that's the way i have been brought up. But I couldn't give two hoots about Islam..and I don't want to know...it's not ignorance at all. I was born a christian and that's the way I should be accepted from all other races like Muslims.

 

 

But now your making an assumption about me. My comment was aimed at your comment saying 'That you knew the difference between right or wrong". That isn't what Christianity teaches us..it is how we interact with our fellows humans that is the underpinning principle...your comment seemed to dispel that.

 

 

I should think Christian values are common sense really without having to look in any Bible.

 

You're last sentence is nonsense and makes me think you're on a wind up. The Bible, the book of God/Jesus' teachings, the basis of Christianity, and you're saying you don't need to look in it to explain Christian values to me? You're painting yourself as a practicing Christian yet don't seem to have any regard for what is fundamental to the religion. Have you actually read The Bible? Do you know what is taught in the Old Testament? Do you consider that you follow Old Testament values?

[Valenick]

So essentially, what you're saying is Islam, a religion, is a cult. And every follower of Islam has the potential to be a terrorist.

 

Why would it be different for me to say the same about Christianity and the followers of that particular religion based on the Christian man who carried out the shootings/bombings in Norway a couple of years back? There are millions of Christians in this country living together. Would you describe them as ants living in colonies?

 

Cheeky I just want this country to stay British they will take over without a shot being fired in this and many countries by out breeding us look around you Muhammad is the third most popular boys name now I don't want their third world beliefs over here like stoning people killing people because their gay and so on Islam is put before life and that is very dangerous

[PVTony]

Cheeky I just want this country to stay British they will take over without a shot being fired in this and many countries by out breeding us look around you Muhammad is the third most popular boys name now I don't want their third world beliefs over here like stoning people killing people because their gay and so on Islam is put before life and that is very dangerous

 

The most common name in the world is Muhammed.

[Tone]

That was not the point I was making, Tone. Mr Trump wants to ban Muslims, I was simply pointing out that more murders are committed by white people in the USA than by Muslims - I never mentioned murders by African-Americans because they are not the issue for Mr Trump - unless, of course, his next step is to send all black Americans back to Africa. And I say again, if he genuinely wants to keep his countrymen safe, change the gun laws. A couple of weeks ago a madman ran into a London tube station and attacked a random civilian shouting "this is for Syria". He used a knife. Nobody died. In San Bernadino two mad folk carried out an attack for the same reason - they used some of the freely available guns in your country. Fourteen people died. Why don't your politicians address this issue which is surely the key to the violence in your society?

 

Thanks for clarifying my misunderstanding. I am not a Trump supporter, but addressing the gun issue is not the solution to the Muslim problem.

[Jacko51]

I am not a Trump supporter,

 

I delighted to hear that, Tone. Good man.

[Jacko51]

Oh I apologise didn't realise you were blind my bad

 

Nick, I'm not blind, I simply wasn't in Hanley when this happened. Sorry you didn't understand that. Your bad.

[Tone]

I delighted to hear that, Tone. Good man.

 

Neither am I a Trump hater.

[Tone]

You're last sentence is nonsense and makes me think you're on a wind up. The Bible, the book of God/Jesus' teachings, the basis of Christianity, and you're saying you don't need to look in it to explain Christian values to me? You're painting yourself as a practicing Christian yet don't seem to have any regard for what is fundamental to the religion. Have you actually read The Bible? Do you know what is taught in the Old Testament? Do you consider that you follow Old Testament values?

 

Are your "values" those of the Saxons, Normans or even Victorians?

 

If I am under authority, I act on the last instruction, personally. Not one that applied to the bloke who was there before me.