Mo Chaudry is not the messiah

[Andyregs]

Port Vale FC making a profit does not mean success on the pitch.

 

1) it means we don't go bump!

2) it means there is a far far far better chance of that happening.

[IDF]

How very true.

 

A well structured opinion doesn't mean people have to agree but it should at least deserve well structured responses rather than childish insults.

 

true but after approx 15 months since his initial interest in the club (revealed by Bratt on air and not MC) no-one has actually given any factual reasons as to why he would be so bad for the club.

 

Its always been either

 

Ive heard....

Ive had dealings with but cant say.....

he wants to build houses on VP....

Hes a bit you know...thingy...

 

 

the OP even starts with Mo wants us in administration....really? honestly? is that the best people can come up with?

 

 

If there are any genuine reasons/concerns then I for one would love to hear them...

[Soul Intent]

Some vale fans will never learn. Look at us ***!!! And you are on here trying to convince us that the only person possible willin to save us from liquidation is bad for us.

And what on earth is wrong with a business making a profit. Please tell me, because not doing that has put us here in the first place ( along with people like yourself who chose to fight off a bright future with a new owner in favour of the possible death of the club). Jesus wept, I can't seriously get my head round this ****!

 

Mind boggling isn't it.

 

When Mo's bid was rejected initially, I'm sure that Vale's statement included a comment along the lines of, "We're concerned that he might get Vale promoted then sell us for a profit" - like it's a bad thing! Anyone got the statement?

[fairportnick]

As we’re entering a new era, it’s worth reminding ourselves of the visions outlined by Valiant2001 at the outset and to learn from the lessons of the past; no doubt the group had it’s critics from day one, but the vast majority of fans (myself included) felt like a fans-based consortium was an eminently positive step forward. Unfortunately, as we’ve been horrendously stung by the most despicable shysters imaginable, my outlook of 10 years ago has been proven naïve.

 

Although recent events may have left some of us feeling pessimistic, I think we have good reason to be exceptionally cautious in welcoming a new owner. For me, Chaudry is not the man; whilst he may be our only chance of survival, in what presently is a one-horse race for chairman, the idea he’ll be at the helm long-term is abhorrent to me. There are the following points to consider:

 

· Chaudry wants us in administration

o Administration may lower the price tag of the club, but it’s a short-sighted move. The points deduction administration brings will end our play-off hopes. It will also see our squad dismantled, meaning a re-build job next year and thus a lesser chance of promotion in our next campaign. However, the biggest fear for me is the loss of Adams due to admin, who’s undoubtedly our biggest asset.

· Chaudry’s looking for profit

o I can concede that you don’t need to be a boyhood supporter to be a good football chairman, although it does help. So what’s the lure of being chairman? It’s highly likely the answer is profit and listening to Mo’s spiel, he often likes to remind us he’s “a businessman”. It’s an irritating cliché, regurgitated in many a Hollywood film, but it insinuates Port Vale is a business that Chaudry can realise some profit from… if it’s done in the right way, with success on the pitch then I don’t begrudge him some return on his investment. As we’ve seen from several previous owners, if this is done in the wrong way we’ll make a return to our current plight quite swiftly.

o A longer-term issue is the loss of Vale Park. The economic climate means that redeveloping Vale Park is highly unlikely at present. This climate will change and I can’t see why Chaudry would have any compunctions about cashing in on Vale Park. His interests in property are well reported and our ground represents our potential as a club that can host higher level football.

· Chaudry is an egotist

o Second to profit, surely this is one of Mo’s motives. A visit to his website highlights my point; it’s seems to have been authored by a especially narcissistic David Brent. He’s far from shy of media attention: I’m thinking of ‘Secret Millionaire’ and his decision to join the BNP. Potentially, having an egomaniac in charge would not cause us any problems… my fear is that Chaudry’s the next Sam Hammam and unorthodox methods may turn the club into a circus.

 

What Chaudry’s said has bought him a lot of popularity to date, but how often do we find that what people say and what people do are very separate things. Usually the chairman’s relationship with fans ends in tears and I can’t see this one being any different. As a supporter, my ideals are the continuity of Port Vale as a league club and success on the pitch. The euphoria of giant-killing cup tie is something we live for… but my emotional attachment and ideals for Port Vale are very different than Mo Chaudry’s.

 

The ideal scenario is for a true supporter, to get involved with the club and prevent any future Millers, Deakins, Bratts or Lloyds from causing the sort of damage we’re suffering at the moment.

 

Can anyone on OVF outline Chaudry’s motives and say with confidence that he is trustworthy and honourable?

 

Could you outline your motives (and those of MOLD and Bratt) and say with confidence that they are trustworthy and reliable? Then I will give you a reasoned answer. I realise you will have to answer for yourself twice and I doubt whether the two answers will be the same.

[brookersleftboot]

can only assume the original poster is either Bratt, Oliver, or Jackscum. Mo has vision & finance as well as contacts, something that we have lacked since comming out of admin originally.

 

The only thing that i want to see is the club remain at Vale Park, im traditional & despise these identikit stadiums, ive been to most & they all lack soul & atmosphere.

[melv]

RS just said that ML could be on Late kick off on Monday night.

[valesince83]

 

· Chaudry wants us in administration

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Didn't he try to buy port vale last year or did I dream that???

 

The people that seem to want us go in admin are the board we've had in place who have ran up massive debts and not taken offers of help

[MarkB2]

Mind boggling isn't it.

 

When Mo's bid was rejected initially, I'm sure that Vale's statement included a comment along the lines of, "We're concerned that he might get Vale promoted then sell us for a profit" - like it's a bad thing! Anyone got the statement?

 

That was the rubbish Bratt came out with.

 

Yeah, we don't want someone coming in with money and business know how - they might make the club a success and get promotion. How disgraceful.

 

This is V2001-think at its worst.

[stowers171]

is moving away from Vale Park such a big deal, not that I know his plans but a near enough empty ground every week could be replaced by a 10,000 capacity ground with room to build the more higher we go would make for a better atmosphere?

 

YEs he is a businessman, but if he is making profit then Port Vale is being a success and more money is available to the club.

 

ive said it time and time again if we had to sell vale park and move to a smaller more compact ground it wouldnt bother me. if it was making money for the club and keeping us alive then so be it.

[Andyregs]

Give me a break. Someone speaks nonsense, and is told they are. Stop crying about it. There was nothing reasoned or factual in any of that post. Not one reason why mo would be bad for us, apart from a load of hot hair.

[Marge56]

As we’re entering a new era, it’s worth reminding ourselves of the visions outlined by Valiant2001 at the outset and to learn from the lessons of the past; no doubt the group had it’s critics from day one, but the vast majority of fans (myself included) felt like a fans-based consortium was an eminently positive step forward. Unfortunately, as we’ve been horrendously stung by the most despicable shysters imaginable, my outlook of 10 years ago has been proven naïve.

 

Although recent events may have left some of us feeling pessimistic, I think we have good reason to be exceptionally cautious in welcoming a new owner. For me, Chaudry is not the man; whilst he may be our only chance of survival, in what presently is a one-horse race for chairman, the idea he’ll be at the helm long-term is abhorrent to me. There are the following points to consider:

 

· Chaudry wants us in administration

o Administration may lower the price tag of the club, but it’s a short-sighted move. The points deduction administration brings will end our play-off hopes. It will also see our squad dismantled, meaning a re-build job next year and thus a lesser chance of promotion in our next campaign. However, the biggest fear for me is the loss of Adams due to admin, who’s undoubtedly our biggest asset.

· Chaudry’s looking for profit

o I can concede that you don’t need to be a boyhood supporter to be a good football chairman, although it does help. So what’s the lure of being chairman? It’s highly likely the answer is profit and listening to Mo’s spiel, he often likes to remind us he’s “a businessman”. It’s an irritating cliché, regurgitated in many a Hollywood film, but it insinuates Port Vale is a business that Chaudry can realise some profit from… if it’s done in the right way, with success on the pitch then I don’t begrudge him some return on his investment. As we’ve seen from several previous owners, if this is done in the wrong way we’ll make a return to our current plight quite swiftly.

o A longer-term issue is the loss of Vale Park. The economic climate means that redeveloping Vale Park is highly unlikely at present. This climate will change and I can’t see why Chaudry would have any compunctions about cashing in on Vale Park. His interests in property are well reported and our ground represents our potential as a club that can host higher level football.

· Chaudry is an egotist

o Second to profit, surely this is one of Mo’s motives. A visit to his website highlights my point; it’s seems to have been authored by a especially narcissistic David Brent. He’s far from shy of media attention: I’m thinking of ‘Secret Millionaire’ and his decision to join the BNP. Potentially, having an egomaniac in charge would not cause us any problems… my fear is that Chaudry’s the next Sam Hammam and unorthodox methods may turn the club into a circus.

 

What Chaudry’s said has bought him a lot of popularity to date, but how often do we find that what people say and what people do are very separate things. Usually the chairman’s relationship with fans ends in tears and I can’t see this one being any different. As a supporter, my ideals are the continuity of Port Vale as a league club and success on the pitch. The euphoria of giant-killing cup tie is something we live for… but my emotional attachment and ideals for Port Vale are very different than Mo Chaudry’s.

 

The ideal scenario is for a true supporter, to get involved with the club and prevent any future Millers, Deakins, Bratts or Lloyds from causing the sort of damage we’re suffering at the moment.

 

Can anyone on OVF outline Chaudry’s motives and say with confidence that he is trustworthy and honourable?

 

13 posts since 2007 ??? Says it all really, you obviously don't have anything constructive to say do you ??

[CAVALIER]

Admin/Rob, we need to watch this as its going to out off ANY potential investors. This thread is complete ******** and does *** ody any good.

[cplowe1]

Mo Chaudry is an egotist. Is this a problem? Also, bare in mind that the financial fair play rules kick in next season. So all clubs will have to be run in a more businesslike manner. Finally I always ask myself, if Mo Chaudry had been successful last year, would we have been in a better or worse state than we are now? Answers on a postcard.

[hardlypotter]

Really can't be bothered to read all that...sorry. But beggars can't be choosers when it comes to Chaudry.

 

His profile in the City means he'd give it a good go.

 

Blind faith means very little in reality

[valiantms]

Chaudry wants us in administration

 

So do I. So do most of the fan base given that the alternative is now us going bump. So do most of our creditors given the alternative.

 

Is this really the best reason you have for not going with Mo? Pathetic.