NHS strike.

[Guppy 4 England]

The minimum starting salary for a registered nurse is £21,478.

 

I dont understand the bandings, but **** me its quite scary:

Band 1 Band 2 Band 3 Band 4 Band 5 Band 6 Band 7

14,294 14,294 16,271 18,838 21,478 25,783 30,764

14,653 14,653 16,811 19,268 22,016 26,822 31,768

15,013 15,013 17,425 19,947 22,903 27,901 32,898

 

15,432 17,794 20,638 23,825 28,755 34,530

15,851 18,285 21,265 24,799 29,759 35,536

16,271 18,838 21,478 25,783 30,764 36,666

16,811 19,268 22,016 26,822 31,768 37,921

17,425 27,901 32,898 39,239

 

34,530 40,558

England pay scales: bands 8-9

 

Band 8 Band 9

Range A Range B Range C Range D

39,239 45,707 54,998 65,922 77,850

40,558 47,088 56,504 67,805 81,618

42,190 49,473 59,016 70,631 85,535

43,822 52,235 61,779 74,084 89,640

45,707 54,998 65,922* 77,850* 93,944*

47,088 56,504 67,805* 81,618* 98,453*

[Tosh]

True but health professionals should not be taking action that will be detrimental to patient care

 

What if it's beneficial in the long run? Strike action is very rare and short, contingency plans are always in place to assure patient care does not suffer.

[Santa]

Which tax cuts have helped the high earners? From what i see they now pay 52% tax in comparison to 41% under labour? The personal allowance has gone from 7475 3 years ago to 10000 thats 500 better off for most low earners, the higher earners lose their allowance at 100k earnings. This is classic making stuff up.

Osborne reduced the higher rate of income tax from 50p to 45p in 2012.

 

Raising the personal allowance only benefits those earning above it. Unemployed or underemployed people earning less than £7,475.00 in the first place, some of the very worst off people, wouldn't be a penny better off from it being raised.

 

And that's before we get to some of the corporation tax dodges like Vodafone.

[Guppy 4 England]

The average wage in stoke is 16k-18k....

[Guppy 4 England]

Osborne reduced the higher rate of income tax from 50p to 45p in 2012.

 

Raising the personal allowance only benefits those earning above it. Unemployed or underemployed people earning less than £7,475.00 in the first place, some of the very worst off people, wouldn't be a penny better off from it being raised.

 

And that's before we get to some of the corporation tax dodges like Vodafone.

 

I see your point but its still 47% now in comparison to 41% in 2009. If they were making cuts wouldnt they just put it back to 41%?

 

I presume know minimum wage is £6.50 an hour now... so those earning 7475 or less, only work 22hours a week, so could actually go and work harder to earn more rather than moan about how the increase doesnt affect them. Or they are being topped up by working tax credit or child tax credit which if they are wont be the "worst off people".

 

Vodafones corporation tax dodges doesnt make the higher earners better off though seeing as its a plc anyone can buy shares in it

 

Why are you bringing companies into personal tax discussions?

[Tosh]

Are nurses paid dismally?

 

.

 

Not so much these days, some are well paid and deservedly so but the point is should they get an annual rise? If the government and public sector can't afford it then fair enough but when a so called independent review give MP'S an 11% rise then then that's when it gets unfair and people react.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

What if it's beneficial in the long run? Strike action is very rare and short, contingency plans are always in place to assure patient care does not suffer.

 

That was I belive the argument put to its members by UNISON that whilst today would affect patient care today, in the long run it would benefit patient care

 

IMO as a matter of principle health professionals should not take any action that would knowingly adversely affect patient care

 

Plus they don't run the NHS so it's not their call

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Raising the personal allowance only benefits those earning above it.

 

Yep and so those now below the threshold pay less tax..it does help the lower paid

 

And that's before we get to some of the corporation tax dodges like Vodafone.

 

Different subject completely

[Bycarsbill]

Top post.

 

For me NHS shouldn't be allowed to strike, potentially putting innocent people's lives in greater risk.

 

Thanks for your support. In the past, public sector wages were behind private sector average earnings. The justification for that used to be that public sector pensions were generally better than the private sector. However, that situation has reversed over the last few years (thank you Labour party!!) and the public sector average wage is now ABOVE private sector and public sector pensions are still safeguarded and generally much better than for private sector workers--that's if private sector workers have any pension at all? Your choice public sector workers, but don't forget all salaries/pensions you receive are paid for out of taxation and that affects all of us!!!!!!!!!!

[Bycarsbill]

Not so much these days, some are well paid and deservedly so but the point is should they get an annual rise? If the government and public sector can't afford it then fair enough but when a so called independent review give MP'S an 11% rise then then that's when it gets unfair and people react.

 

The MP's suggested increase hasn't yet been voted on or implemented. However if my MP decides to take such a large increase, she definitely won't be getting my vote next May!

[Guppy 4 England]

The MP's suggested increase hasn't yet been voted on or implemented. However if my MP decides to take such a large increase, she definitely won't be getting my vote next May!

 

These are the same MP's who took a 5% pay cut the other year and pay freezes until 2015. It costs approx 5m for the increase in their pay, the increase for the NHS on standard pay alone would be 450m, added to the 1bn in incremental rises they automatically get.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

MPs are grossly underpaid anyway

 

Pay em 100K min and look at the whole second home thing. Build a big premier Inn and put them in there if they need a london base

[Guppy 4 England]

MPs are grossly underpaid anyway

 

Pay em 100K min and look at the whole second home thing. Build a big premier Inn and put them in there if they need a london base

 

I must be ill or something as i agree with this too.

 

MPs are paid 60kish which for people making decisions for the entire country is crap. Im sure there are bosses on the NHS on far more than this.

[JOHNNYAITCH]

I must be ill or something as i agree with this too.

 

MPs are paid 60kish which for people making decisions for the entire country is crap. Im sure there are bosses on the NHS on far more than this.

 

There are IT and HR managers in a local NHS trust down here who are on more than that

[Tosh]

MPs are grossly underpaid anyway

 

 

I know what you mean by this as their positions in theory should command better salaries, their performances however suggest otherwise.