Rob Page on formations

[Vital Spark]

This is exactly why he should leave along with Grew if Adams is sacked.

[For Us All]

This is exactly why he should leave along with Grew if Adams is sacked.

 

I think you'll find that Grew and Adams are singing off the same Page.:D

[Vital Spark]

Maybe he was actually trying to say that formations are pointless if the players do not carry out their duties properly and make schoolboy errors: i.e. the formation had nothing to do with McGivern not following his man for the first goal on Saturday! I'm sure that somebody who has played professional football for the best part of 20 seasons understands the importance of having the right shape etc.

 

Just because someone hasn't played the professional game, it doesn't mean their football opinions are wrong.

[Little_Al]

This is most disappointing, particularly if he is trying to shift the blame onto individual players. Football is a team game and errors are team errors,except when they are management errors such as poor selection, poor tactics, lack of football knowledge (including understanding of formations), belated and peculiar substitutions.

[Jinkin John Jeffers]

Formations count for nothing. I am gobsmacked

[waynes62]

The last sentence says it all. Is he admitting that the players are not trying?

 

my own opinion is that Micky has lost the dressing room

[Andyregs]

Can't believe it's such a surprise to some. He's done his apprenticeship under Adams, there is no way I'd want page as the next manager. More worrying is that when we ask why Adams and co can't see what seems obvious on the pitch, it seems like they actually can't. Who cares about formations and tactics, that's foreign nonsense, just get in their face ('hunger and desire') and get the ball forward.

Get a new team in, give them the rest of the season to change the culture, and go again next season.

[mattyboolay]

A certain Mr. John Rugde was famous for his opinion that 'tactics and formations don't win games, it's the players that employ them that do'

[Andyregs]

A certain Mr. John Rugde was famous for his opinion that 'tactics and formations don't win games, it's the players that employ them that do'

 

I also remember rudge playing different formations home and away effectively. Why do that if they don't make a difference.

[Burslem Academicals]

We all knew there isn't a plan B but now we know there wasn't even a plan A.......seriously though even in league 2 Adams would often get out thought by rookie managers and is quite obviously out of his depth in league 1........failed badly at Brighton and was a disaster at Sheffield utd

who likewise didn't see Adams as a league 1 manager going forward.

Someone made the observation recently on OVF that league 1 has moved on in the last few years or half decade and is now nearer to the Championship

and a considerable jump in class from league 2 which is probably nearer the conference.....Adams was the Fred Flintstone of football tactics

back in the day before the modern era even started and can now be considered something of a museum curiosity or antiquity in the modern game.

The language is all about working hard and character....wanting it more and the rub of the green.....and not about tactics and systems along with

technical coaching and player development.....essentially it is a bag of superstitions and hoodoo in place of evidence based science and philosophy

.....the dark ages before the enlightenment.

[Vital Spark]

my own opinion is that Micky has lost the dressing room

 

This would not surprise me at all.

[Vital Spark]

A certain Mr. John Rugde was famous for his opinion that 'tactics and formations don't win games, it's the players that employ them that do'

 

Yet he was a master tactician who proved time and time again that players of all ability could be effective if given the correct role and formation.

[mattyboolay]

I also remember rudge playing different formations home and away effectively. Why do that if they don't make a difference.

 

Just quoting the legend. :)

[Howjy04]

my own opinion is that Micky has lost the dressing room

 

Get pasted tomorrow and he'll need to find the dressing room( quickly).

[mattyboolay]

Yet he was a master tactician who proved time and time again that players of all ability could be effective if given the correct role and formation.

 

He was a master, but his point was it is down to the players. Tactics and formations don't work if the players aren't good enough