Stoke City abuse claims

[For Us All]

I wouldn't want to point the finger at anyone in particular but I suspect someone had a hand in it.

 

Was anybody caught red-handed?

[davidatpreston]

If Fox's fingers were that big...... OUCH! ;)

 

 

Are you really pleased with yourself for posting that, bearing in mind that you told me to wash my mouth out just for calling Merkel a fat bitch and argued against Vale considering Ched Evans as a player?

 

Serious sexual assault and vile bullying - not funny, trivial or maybe you don't agree. Some people might feel you are being a little hyporcritical, don't you think ?

[For Us All]

Even though you end by saying you would see it as an assault if the young lad(s) did not protest or 'welcome it', your post and a couple of later ones that seem to find it amusing, trivialise serious sexual assault by using the term 'bit of fun'.

Nobody would welcome that done to them by a group of vile predators, but most if not all would be intimidated enough not to complain, theyre going to have to work with the men that did it, or protest 'at the time' - many female rape victims do not complain 'at the time' though shock, stress and intimidation.

This is just as bad - can you imagine if someone had, to put it bluntly, fingered a woman's vagina and referred to it as 'a bit of fun'.

Anyone who intends this 'as a bit of fun' is seriously deluded, and as your previous posts have said your wife is a nurse, I suggest you ask her about the dangers involved of serious physical damage, rectal bleeding, infections like hepatitis, and mental trauma from what you twice refer to as 'a bit of fun'.

But of course, a bit of bullying never hurt anyone in some people's eyes.

Maybe your idea of a bit of fun is different to mine, and although you didn't agree with them saying that, your post leans that way and does not contain any of the indignation that occurred when I called Merkel a 'fat bitch' - wow, that's far worse isn't it.

If this is proved and charges go to court, I hope those found guilty spend some time in prisons where they might learn some more fun initiations of their own.

 

:wow:

[For Us All]

Are you really pleased with yourself for posting that, bearing in mind that you told me to wash my mouth out just for calling Merkel a fat bitch and argued against Vale considering Ched Evans as a player?

 

Serious sexual assault and vile bullying - not funny, trivial or maybe you don't agree. Some people might feel you are being a little hyporcritical, don't you think ?

 

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Even though you end by saying you would see it as an assault if the young lad(s) did not protest or 'welcome it', your post and a couple of later ones that seem to find it amusing, trivialise serious sexual assault by using the term 'bit of fun'.

 

Wow Hans Christian, going back t0 2013 for the source of your fairy tales..impressive stalking

 

Show me where I said what happened was a bit of fun? You won't cos you can't cos I didn't..I said that some may see it how it was intended..not that I saw it as a bit of fun and that people sometimes cross the line away from a bit of fun..show me wher I said what happened was a bit of fun?

 

and does not contain any of the indignation that occurred when I called Merkel a 'fat bitch' - wow, that's far worse isn't it.

 

Paranoia creeping in again..is that why you felt the need to go back what, 18 months? A failed attempt to get back at me for exposing your sexism? Your sexism is proven..it's there in your posts.

 

If this is proved and charges go to court, I hope those found guilty spend some time in prisons where they might learn some more fun initiations of their own.

 

I would not wish such things on anyone but if you do..well that's up to you I guess.

 

You forgot "and thet all lived happily after" at the end of your post

[davidatpreston]

 

Not sure what your emoticons are trying to say, would be interested in your view.

 

Particularly as the 2 posters who I referred to seem to have developed writers cramp on this thread, despite posting and giving us the benefit of their opinion on just about all and every other thread on OVF since the doomsday book was written. Interesting, don't you think ?

[JOHNNYAITCH]

And pls show me the later ones where I found the incident amusing? You appear to have made that up..quelle surprise

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Not sure what your emoticons are trying to say, would be interested in your view.

 

Particularly as the 2 posters who I referred to seem to have developed writers cramp on this thread, despite posting and giving us the benefit of their opinion on just about all and every other thread on OVF since the doomsday book was written. Interesting, don't you think ?

 

If you meant me read the post above yours Hans...I posted before you accused me of not posting.

[davidatpreston]

If you meant me read the post above yours Hans...I posted before you accused me of not posting.

 

Please learn to read, look at post 36 - it shows I quoted For Us All. also it was REP laughing at the giant glove, once again you try to make me a liar when im not. The thread is open now so whether earlier posts were made in 2013 or not, no trawling done- current posts being made.

 

yourquote some would go through it and see it how it was intended (bit of fun) and some would not indicates a neutral attitude at best, and you seemed to think it mattered whether the completely humiliated and intimidated victim complained at the time.

 

Did you find REPs laughter at the giant gloves funny by the way ?

[mr.hobblesworth]

There is a massive difference in attitudes to male and female rape. Some of the jokes and more light-hearted comments on here would never be made if the victims were female, just as jokes about dropping the soap in the shower and the likelihood of male prisoners getting raped wouldn't be made about women. Even quite mainstream media seems quite happy to laugh about men being violently sexually assaulted.

[davidatpreston]

There is a massive difference in attitudes to male and female rape. Some of the jokes and more light-hearted comments on here would never be made if the victims were female, just as jokes about dropping the soap in the shower and the likelihood of male prisoners getting raped wouldn't be made about women. Even quite mainstream media seems quite happy to laugh about men being violently sexually assaulted.

 

The mainstream media used to find words like c o o n and sam bo hilarious only about 25 years ago, all gays were considered to be like Mr Humphries, women were treated as objects in Brush Strokes and Men Behaving Badly - so does that make it allright ?

Are you saying the massive difference in attitude is ok - I don't think so, based on what you have posted before. Words don't matter that much as long as someone points to the opposite view, but if this did really happen, the best way to stop it and change that attitude is to make an example of those who did it.

 

I don't pretend that part of my motive in posting on this was to expose some massive hypocrisy, especially by one poster who loves to get on his high horse but found these alleged sexual assaults hugely amusing in post 26.

[mr.hobblesworth]

Of course I don't think it's ok.

[For Us All]

Not sure what your emoticons are trying to say, would be interested in your view.

 

Particularly as the 2 posters who I referred to seem to have developed writers cramp on this thread, despite posting and giving us the benefit of their opinion on just about all and every other thread on OVF since the doomsday book was written. Interesting, don't you think ?

 

:moreconfusion:

[JOHNNYAITCH]

Please learn to read, look at post 36 - it shows I quoted For Us All. also it was REP laughing at the giant glove, once again you try to make me a liar when im not. The thread is open now so whether earlier posts were made in 2013 or not, no trawling done- current posts being made.

 

Post 30 you quoted me and then posted

 

"your post and a couple of later ones that seem to find it amusing, trivialise serious sexual assault by using the term 'bit of fun'."

 

What posts did I make laer or indeed anywhere where I referred to serious sexual assault as a bit of fun?

 

 

yourquote some would go through it and see it how it was intended (bit of fun) and some would not indicates a neutral attitude at best, and you seemed to think it mattered whether the completely humiliated and intimidated victim complained at the time.

 

Make your mind uo..did I think it a bit of fun or was I neutral? Either is b0ll0x but make your minbd up

 

Did you find REPs laughter at the giant gloves funny by the way ?

 

I don't recall it. Did I read it? Did I post after he posted hatever he posted?

[JOHNNYAITCH]

There is a massive difference in attitudes to male and female rape. Some of the jokes and more light-hearted comments on here would never be made if the victims were female, just as jokes about dropping the soap in the shower and the likelihood of male prisoners getting raped wouldn't be made about women. Even quite mainstream media seems quite happy to laugh about men being violently sexually assaulted.

 

Totally agree..far too light hearted an attitude

 

There is even one poster on here who likes to get on his mega horse to lecture us but also hopes that some men get sexually assaulted in prison...see post #30 on this very thread

 

He also uses the term bitch to describe at least one woman whilst cantering around on his steed