TJHValiant

If we emulated Rotherham and Peterborough I would be ecstatic.

You have missed out page 9 that refers to the loans owed to creditors after 1 year. Those sentences refer to short term loans only repayable within a year at 0%. Effectively that’s 1 year interest free. The Barclays loan at 2.5% and others are detailed at Page 9 under point 7 under amounts due after 1 year. That is debt to the club, not Carol as these are club accounts.

When I say Barclays I mean with Barclays by the owners..

When earned, absolutely.

It isn’t. One such loan is one taken out by Barclays against the club.

Yet it is an industry where the workers take home big wages. Even in league 2. Where else would uneducated men like Ryan Loft get £3,000 + a week for being awful? On Wednesday I spent £27 plus programme and food to watch what was an evening of non entertainment. I can’t think of any other circumstance with life where I would spend that sort of money for nothing in return, let alone a whole season in doing it.

Look at the loans taken out, then look at the interest. They are against the club, not personal expenditure by Carol.

Actually a large proportion of the losses are interests on loans owed to her as I see it. So Carol’s kids will never starve with Vale around.

It has to question how the club is run. Smurfwaite was a horrible man, yet I don’t think the club racked up these sort of debts under him. Certainly the rubbish football under his ownership was a cheaper form of rubbish football for similar outcomes so far…

We do, but that’s all pointless if the corporate operation does not make more money.

I guess it will. I mean Sky Sports in the UK can’t surely tempt the EFL to give up international revenue for games. I’m hoping, as someone who uses a VPN for many games to access them in the UK, I’ll still be able to see all games somehow.

That’s the grimmest bit. Last season was actually fairly successful in terms of gates etc. God knows what the money has gone on because it wasn’t on a top class squad.

Not really. Which is why you shouldn’t buy a lower league club to remain one. You need to either spend the money to get to the Champ or leave.

Peterborough are only £5 million more in debt than we are, but guess what? If they get to the champ they will pay that off while ours will increase or worse in LG2. It pays to spend money on a good squad.

Pretty grim reading. I must admit I am quite shocked.

A cheap foreign signing that nobody can moan about just yet because he is far too obscure for anyone to have seen play is a classic Norman Smurfwaite agent catalogue scenario. That’s what really pees me off is this signing of players who nobody can ever say they have ever seen play, because nobody from the club was in the states watching 2nd tier US league football in October when he last played. When will people actually learn from Rudge? What’s the point of having him at the club if we don’t learn from his example? He never signed a player he had never not seen play live. Totally agree with him on that, so why does not the club?

Quite a lot is pushing it. He played 36 games for the Colorado Rapids in the MLS, the rest in a tier below that. 173 games in 11 years is a pretty small amount which suggests either injured or bench warming. Martin Paterson left us to play at the level he has and he got 9 goals which tells you how bad the standard must be!

While Ripley isn’t amazing, he is the least of our worries. We won’t be relegated because of him. His performances are acceptable.

Wynne! The bloke who has not played any football since October gets a start in our most important game. You gotta be kidding. Even at his very very best his career profile is very dubious and starting him would be a wild gamble. Personally given that yesterday was such a write off, the clever decision would have been to have given him some minutes last night.

Scarily, having heard Darren Moore’s post match interview that may very well had been his team talk.

Further point, Peterborough are only 4th in the table, someway off Pompey on 90 points to their 77. If we are that far off Posh’s level, no wonder we are doomed.

I wasn’t seeing much tight play in the 2nd half. Agreed in the first we tried that, but in the 2nd half they ran riot and it was like watching the footballing equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters. There really shouldn’t be sides that much better than us in the 3rd division. The gap was embarrassing and if we do by some miracle stay up, who wants another year watching non events like that with a wholly useless squad? It needs about £5 million putting in to get a guaranteed mid table finish from what I have seen.

New Zealand? Come on that’s hardly the barometer of a strong pedigree, they currently have players starting who play in the Irish league and he isn’t in the frame for a squad of players to that standard? He is some bloke who has been pulled in out of desperation. If by some miracle he is a great signing, no doubt his five game deal will see him bugger off to better things at the end of it. This signing is another indication of not doing the business in January. If Carol had managed to get Peterborough to cancel Clark Harris’ contract to join us for the last five games, I’d have called that “promising”. Not a guy who has never played English football and nothing since October.

They were free hits, but we didn’t come close to landing a hit. Agree about Ojo, big worry.

Indeed. That was the saddest bit. Nobody seemed bothered. Moore’s tactics were basically to replace Loft from running around aimlessly with Uche. Both totally had to impact on the game. Nobody dared make a challenge or disrupt their rhythm.