TJHValiant

The sad reality is the club has had as many bizarre decisions that we saw under Smurfwaite. It may be wrapped in the cuddly, warm quilt of community clubs and self styled saviour nonsense, but things like Flitcroft, President Robbie, poor summer funding for strikers, dreadful January windows, irate letters to fans are pure Smurfwaite level errors. What we really need is a board of investors with real knowledge who can truly scrutinize decisions being made. Having a DOF as a director in Flitcroft was madness. We basically gave him the right to mark his own homework!

Meanwhile Deklan Wynne is picking up his first week’s wages. Another example of us using resources well. We won’t see him in the squad this season, let alone in the starting 11. Whatever he is getting, it will be free money to him.

The only positive memory I have of today, is at least Uche was up for the fight. He battled for everything and tried to get the crowd going. He is the only one who showed a character of a winner. He should be made captain, showed real leadership.

Patrick is a gormless idiot who knows nothing about football. He’d barely be able to get a job cleaning toilets if he didn’t have his mum around. The club is run like a village green cricket club. Stick anyone in with connections or who the owner likes. Moore was hired because it seems he was the nicest man.

Smurfwaite ran the club better. Sorry, but he did. He never ran up 3m losses and although the football was crap, it was a cheaper form of crap.

I feel sorry for Crosby because it is very clear that I could never, ever imagine if a team of his was 2-0 up at half time, they would go on to lose 4-2.

Carol doesn’t care. As long as we have decent caterers in the Robbie, that’s all that matters. Speaking of our devine president, I see he remains as big a committed fan as ever…

Sang is a useless tugger. Bunch of non league, chancers getting pro money. They have no character, they are a bunch of sad losers. This 2nd half makes Peterborough on Wednesday look like a committed fight.

Don’t worry, our saviour will save us by leveraging more debt in the club’s name to her.

What a load of embarrassing rubbish. £3m worth of losses for this. Moore standing there with his hands in his pockets. Having a tug probably.

To be honest, they just seem a team frozen by fear. 2-0 and we were playing freely, came out for the second half looking scared to win.

Bloody hell. Are they on a bonus for a relegation? Looks like it.

Starting to look very ropey at the back. Can’t believe Oxford a stuffing the seemingly invincible Peterborough 4-0 either…

Cheltenham losing. Thank god.

What a sitter missed by Garrity. Why can’t these one on ones we have had recently be faken with more composure.

The interest may not be owed to Carol, it is owed to the creditors. My point is, it is the club in debt, not Carol personally. If it all goes wrong, the club goes bust, not Carol. Nothing sinister about that, it’s the case with any business but the idea she is some saviour putting herself on the line for Vale is wide of the mark.

That’s a good point. It was the final payment year.

Read page 9. Barclays, ten year loan. From June 2020. That’s a loan, 2.5% interest to a bank. Not nonsense.

Nobody has covered it. It’s an outstanding loss. The 3.4 million is debt owed by the club. It has not been paid off by Carol. That’s clear from reading the accounts. There seem to be some people out there who think Carol is personally absorbing the losses. This is totally untrue. The losses in the accounts are covered by the loans and our creditors. Carol is one such creditor, but it isn’t free money. Page 9 outlines that we owe a lot with loans in excess of a year. Which means rolling payments that will be compounded into next years figures and beyond.

It’s the Vale that are in debt. Those accounts are the club’s, not Carol’s. If we were getting bankrolled by her, there would be no need for the debt or the creditors outlined in page 9 of the account. All she is doing is taking out loans. Not in her name, but the club’s.

If we emulated Rotherham and Peterborough I would be ecstatic.

You have missed out page 9 that refers to the loans owed to creditors after 1 year. Those sentences refer to short term loans only repayable within a year at 0%. Effectively that’s 1 year interest free. The Barclays loan at 2.5% and others are detailed at Page 9 under point 7 under amounts due after 1 year. That is debt to the club, not Carol as these are club accounts.

When I say Barclays I mean with Barclays by the owners..

When earned, absolutely.

It isn’t. One such loan is one taken out by Barclays against the club.