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  1. Couldn't agree more. I've been ashamed by the way fans have turned on the lad, especially seeing as he was a key factor in keeping us up. Maybe his downturn in form can also be traced back to fans being allowed back in the building. He probably took a heavy touch in August and people have been on his back ever since. I'm getting so tired of our fanbase, and it goes beyond Rodney. The ground is always half empty five minutes from time. We go from this "HMS P*ss The League" balls to "we're rubbish" in a week. It's embarrassing. I love the club, but it doesn't have the fans it deserves.
    14 points
  2. I feel exactly the same way - win the next game and fans that have criticised since before the COVID break will be back to promotion talk. You can argue that they pay to attend matches so if they want to boo and complain for everything then they are entitled to their opinions, but if you're a real supporter, with a balanced view, you would know that unnecessary pressure is counter-productive to your club's path to any form of success. Some of the things written in the FB group are actually ridiculous. We laugh at Stoke fans on P&G, our fans are worse. And I'm aware that I'm moaning about people moaning but we've had 20 years of poor ownership, we know what it looks like. We should also be aware that the club is one big ship in the sea that is going to take time to turn around. I'm not saying fans shouldn't have an opinion if they don't agree with mine, not at all, but just because our colours are black and white it doesn't mean all our opinions need to be. A Vale fan on Twitter over the weekend was already writing off Hall and Hussey after 3 games (Hall hasn't even played that yet) There will always be those fans in football, I understand, but for what is considered a small fanbase in the EFL, we have way too many knee-jerk supporters.
    6 points
  3. Re Rodney I think we have to remember Rodney the person, and not just Rodney the footballer. We know he's become a father for the first time recently, so maybe this has affected his football? It might not have, but as a father myself, I remember how hard those early months can be with the stress, pressure and sleepless nights of having to look after a newborn. I wouldn't write him off just yet (unless those Walsall rumours are true and he's leaving today! If he is, we must have got a fee, and I'd hope we would have someone lined up quickly ourselves?
    5 points
  4. Probably not, although some games particularly at home i want to see us start more front foot. The wing backs as often commented can see Worrall very deep at times. It's always about the players on the day not a formation. Either way we need to be at it and get an early goal for confidence. Start on the front foot, get the crowd behind them. Ponderous plodding and zero oomph will make it a flat occasion. The season won't be defined by Scunthorpe but this is a game we have to win in my book.
    4 points
  5. Not arguing with you but is 5-3-2 particularly more defensive than 4-4-2? We've put in some thrilling attacking displays with 5 at the back, albeit with Gibbo in the side.
    3 points
  6. Gibbo is probably the best player at the club. Gutted for him. But we have plenty of cover. Jones can also do WB. Both sides. Wilson is an odd one. He needs the system to suit him. Ball to feet outside the box. He's not a target man. Rodders, who knows? There is a potential player there but who knows what is going on? Thought he had just hit his stride when out again. Definitely gone backwards for whatever reason. The two young lads up front, potential, but too big an ask for them to propel us to promotion. Hall has looked an upgrade. Hussey has been alright. But seems to just whack it in when we have no one there without getting his head up. We need a quality midfielder to replace Conlon. An experienced striker who knows where the net is. But these do not grow on trees. It will be a battle to get something out of this season. We can do it. But it is looking a tough ask at this time.
    2 points
  7. I know the bloke you are talking about… rule number 1 is to ignore him completely. He’s a very strange individual indeed.
    2 points
  8. Couldn't agree more, hope the rumors regarding Devante are totally unfounded as there's a ton of talent in there. A combination of niggly injuries and the 3-5-2 system doesn't appear to suit him hence he is where he is, he just needs to play a run of games.
    2 points
  9. I dont think there are any budget constraints and players will be coming in thats for certain
    2 points
  10. I am probably wrong but i dont think they will rush into replacing Gibbons,as they have Hussey and Benning on the left and Cass and wozza on the right,also i think Hurst can play either side as well,so that wont be a priority but i agree a conlon replacement will come in and another attacking player plus 2 more maybe
    2 points
  11. We have no chance given the way DC manages the status of his players. He's the only manager I have ever known who has players with long term injuries but makes it sound like they are in contention to start. He set his stall out early doors with the local press on players to the point where they don't even bother to ask him most of the time.
    2 points
  12. The market dictates the going rate for proven players at this level. If you want to be competitive with other teams around you, you have to either pay it or hope that you’ve got players who can overdeliver relative to the salary they command.
    2 points
  13. You'd have to ask the players who were in that promotion team about that but you seem to have already answered that question with your last sentence. Anyway,I'm with DC,protect the wage structure
    2 points
  14. The teams you mention plus the likes of Burton,Fleetwood and Wycombe deserve a bit more respect in my opinion.Bigger and better stadiums plus greater support don't guarantee you three points on the field.It's more down to management and recruitment.
    2 points
  15. Protecting the club finances is good. We should never the risk the club's finances and I would never want Carol to do so. There is a budget we have to abide by. Not signing good players, if the budget exists, as other professional footballers will be upset that someone earns more than them is counter-productive, imo. Do you think the 12/13 squad were bothered that Lee Hughes was earning more than the rest of them by a considerable margin, or do you think they were too busy winning games and getting a promotion on their CV? If there is a player we can get within our overall budget who can replace Gibbons, then we should go and get him. Why would the other players even know what a signing is on?
    2 points
  16. We are protecting our wage structure along with our dressing room.
    2 points
  17. A creative centre mid and an experienced striker needed. Big ask and probably a bridge too far in the timeframe left, but it would be nice. Wilson and Proctor alternating due to injury and fitness, partnering this new striker we need, the kids and Amooooo for pace and pressure off the bench. And someone to pass them the ball, that’s where the replacement for Pirlo comes in.
    2 points
  18. SV and Jacko both of you are correct. I hope it can be repaired. The landlady Sharon Crisp gave the wife and myself a tour of the place a few years ago. The wallpaper was still on the walls the condition of the floorboards was excellent. The rooms were big with toilets at the end of the landing. Downstairs were a number of tunnels . If my memory serves me right one went to what used to be a brewery on the site that as a lad had a bandstand. Another went to the town hall opposite and there was one which was used by ppl to leave the pub if say the police came in. Also it was described as the Hilton of the North and I think Ava Gardner stayed there. So little old Burslem was home to the Hilton and Wembley of the north.
    2 points
  19. You won't get any apology. People won't want to admit that they've followed all the hocus pocus for 2 years for nothing. The trouble with the 'virtuous' is that they are all too keen to be seen to be 'doing their bit', 'staying safe', 'protecting others', but they're equally happy to throw derogatory slurs at those that don't buy into their virtuous ways. Happy to call them 'cranks' or 'covid deniers' or 'conspiracy nuts', but to admit that they were wrong, that the insults they threw were wrong would go totally against their holier than thou, virtuous ways. Those that went against this from the off have always been decried as 'right wing', 'evil', 'granny killers', 'selfish', but guess who gave them the labels? Who slandered them at every turn? Yes, that's right, the 'virtuous' lot. I notice that many of the media have turned now too. Questioning why we followed unelected psychologists and 'modelling' from the off when they were regularly and catastrophically wrong again and again. Why we followed leaders who have regularly and wilfully broke their own rules (if they deemed the virus 'deadly' then they wouldn't have dared break the rules at all). It's all too little, too late unfortunately. The damage has been done, as we said it would be and nobody listened. This last couple of years has opened my eyes to how unthinking people are, how pathetic they are, how fearful they are of mortality and how little understanding they have of death. I've seen hypocrisy in spades, people trying to 'out virtue' each other, people blindly following stupid, ridiculous rules. I've seen doctors and health people, who must have know something wasn't quite right, stay quiet for their own self preservation. I've seen MP's who do not have a clue about the most important thing to happen in our history since World War 2. They'll never apologise though.
    2 points
  20. If he’s played for Sunderland he can’t play for anyone else apart from them or Harrogate as can only play for 2 clubs a season.
    2 points
  21. Tranmere and Mansfield managed it?
    2 points
  22. Should have gone for him in the summer (tshimanga) was definitely worth the risk, surprised we didn’t to be honest, would have thought he fitted the process perfectly
    2 points
  23. They have lost last 4 haven’t scored in 4 what could go wrong ? 😀
    2 points
  24. I think some of the comments ,on this thread,re Devante Rodney, are bloody disgraceful.
    2 points
  25. He’s been with us for a season and a half. First season, did pretty well without being spectacular, however so far this season has had a number of set backs. he’s still under contract so unless someone is paying a fee or we’re settling his contract early (highly unlikely) then he’ll be staying put and I for one hope that he can continue to develop with us. He’s still relatively young so why wouldn’t we want to develop him…..but that will mean we will have to accept the inconsistencies in his game rather than just looking for a scapegoat as our fan base usually do
    1 point
  26. 5 at the back means we have three centre backs marking their one striker and then we wonder why we are overrun in midfield
    1 point
  27. It is a fair way mate, last time we got a taxi to the game from Victoria, cost about a tenner. As it was a nice August day we walked back, maybe 45 minutes walk. Won't be doing that in February. Looked like regular buses but they were all rammed hence we had a stroll back into Manchester.
    1 point
  28. They’ve been scratching around for centre halves. Monthe got a long ban for something daft he said and another lad decided to go back to Scotland.
    1 point
  29. i think he means if ever there is a game not to have 5 at the back then an horrific bottom of the league team at home is the game to go 4-4-3 or 4-4-2 we shouldn't be stacked with 5 at the back against Scunthorpe, however you dress up the formation.
    1 point
  30. Why? We're arguably better stocked with defenders than anywhere else on the pitch.
    1 point
  31. If we play 5 at the back on Saturday I think we can safely say whether DC is here 1 more game or 100,000 more games, he’ll always play this formation.
    1 point
  32. Agree with you on Gibbo, options already at the Vale. Do wonder if because of budget constraints our midfield might just stay as it is.
    1 point
  33. Gotta love twitter with its toxic like Trolls/bot accounts There's definitely a player in Rodney , just needs that fire back. Wonder if its long covid that's affected him fitness/stamina wise maybe ? If we didn't have so many injuries , I do think a loan deal would have benefited Rodders.
    1 point
  34. That Guardian article is from the 18th Dec 2021. The new Brexit rules kicked in on the 1st Jan 2022.
    1 point
  35. The Tiger is also in The Old Wives Tale which is one of my favourite books. If I remember correctly it's also in the short story The Death of Simon Fuge.
    1 point
  36. Mid 70’s. Couldn’t afford to pay to go in so sat on the wall behind the church to watch from behind the Lorne street and when they opened the gates we went into the Lorne Street. When I see the wall now can’t believe we did that as I wouldn’t want to be up on there now. Due to the height, not the fact that we wouldn’t be able to see the pitch.
    1 point
  37. 70/71 season, can’t remember which game it was either Bolton or the Aston Villa 4-4 draw, whichever game came first.
    1 point
  38. So what about lorry queues and endless paperwork? I have been in Europe for a couple of week’s, no shortage of anything.
    1 point
  39. No hard feelings from me towards Rodney, at times he was unplayable last season, he was one though I was most excited to get back into Vale Park and get behind as I felt his power and pace would have the fans off their feet and get the ground going. Just hasn’t worked out unfortunately and I’m disappointed as the potential is there, just a case of he doesn’t seem to know how to unlock it.
    1 point
  40. Is he injured though? His injury didn’t look that bad when he went off against Bristol. I’m not sure we will miss striker who’s not scored this season or let’s be honest contributed at all. I mean it was un called for, but he was getting booed in home games before his injury. If we played him out wide then maybe he would be useful, but we don’t play wingers. Ideal situation for me is that Rodney goes and walsall pay a fee and we have someone lined up to replace him as our squad is threadbare. He’s had chances this season. He had time to prove himself with Wilson and Proctor out and didn’t.
    1 point
  41. Totally agree on that--people in glass houses..........
    1 point
  42. People wont agree but for me the club had banked on Gibbo being sold this month,now that wont happen,i really feel sorry for Gibbo(whats this the 3rd time in a year or so he has done hamstrings?) because i doubt now bigger clubs will take a gamble on his hamstrings,also will vale take the gamble as well....got to feel for the lad
    1 point
  43. I question whether it's a physical injury, never no update on how far off being fit again with Rodney.
    1 point
  44. Walsall are also a professional football club so the masquerade would continue. Looks like the Rodney project hasn't worked out, but I don't think anyone at the club is to blame. Perhaps Devante himself hasn't got the mentality to get the best out of his talents.
    1 point
  45. We're actually a progressive, forward thinking football club now. Whether we go up this season or not, we're on the right track.
    1 point
  46. The irony with all this, is that one of the things DC was most critical of when he arrived at Vale Park was the poor standards of fitness and the high levels of absence through injuries for which, he pointed the finger at the previous management/coaching staff! What went wrong this time around DC?
    1 point
  47. Last year Clarke condemned our injury record and said he'd never really had more than a few players injured at a time. He said things would change. Sadly what's changed is our injury curse has more than cancelled out his lucky rabbit's foot. The players have changed, and I understand so has our medical and fitness department. Is it the pitch to blame? Something to do with the training facilities? Just more bad luck?
    1 point
  48. How's that Red Tape thing going...?? The people who bought you Brexit and promised we'd all be richer, we'd have cheaper fuel (I need to take a break at this point and stop laughing! 🤣) we'd control our borders (hello France can you help, please!) and we'd hold all the cards - and that trading with the EU would be simpler and easier because we'd get rid of the red tape - have just introduced the greatest amount of red tape ever known. And its set to get worse in the summer when Rules of Origin are bought in. Also, as patriot, how do you feel about your Government openly admitting to using techniques first drawn up in Germany in 1932 by the Nazis to continually lie, never admit the truth, and now make it illegal for a British Citizen to protest about our lot....?? Brexit has been a complete and utter disaster; sadly its going to get worse. And its the poorest in society that will bear the biggest burden.
    1 point


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