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16 hours ago, man in the pub said:

How will our competitive budget be spent? If it's paying off under contract players then how much will be left for new signings and will that figure be competitive?

I obviously have no idea but i guess we will pay a couple off,tell a few others that they are free to find a new club and have some cash to pay a fee or two if needs be and maybe higher wages to the right players

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On 04/05/2024 at 18:26, Killersrevenge44 said:

And after all... Carol said the players were 'Phenomenal'.. I would back my life savings on anything she recommended...! 

Flitcroft... Her doing

Players and relegation... Her doing

Moore... Her doing

5.5 yr contract... Her doing

Next installment... To be continued😉

 

 

Considering that, as the co owner, Carol is ultimately  responsible for everything I think listing all the things that went wrong whilst ignoring all the things she has got right is extremely unbalanced. You are simply choosing the facts which suit your view of her whilst failing to mention anything which doesn't support that view. That's just unfair.

 

 

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2 hours ago, kevin_struggles said:

Considering that, as the co owner, Carol is ultimately  responsible for everything I think listing all the things that went wrong whilst ignoring all the things she has got right is extremely unbalanced. You are simply choosing the facts which suit your view of her whilst failing to mention anything which doesn't support that view. That's just unfair.

 

 

That is true, however it also mirrors Carol’s strategy when defending DF which was also far from a balanced assessment

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On 04/05/2024 at 22:40, Matlock Vale said:
On 04/05/2024 at 22:01, man in the pub said:
How will our competitive budget be spent? If it's paying off under contract players then how much will be left for new signings and will that figure be competitive?

Do you want to keep the dross we have? Get rid and sign on players who have heart and desire.

Certainly not Matlock I'm all for getting shut. Was just curious how the competitive budget was going to be defined. Competitive after we have paid up and got shut of the deadwood, or competitive before this process takes place ?

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2 hours ago, kevin_struggles said:

Considering that, as the co owner, Carol is ultimately  responsible for everything I think listing all the things that went wrong whilst ignoring all the things she has got right is extremely unbalanced. You are simply choosing the facts which suit your view of her whilst failing to mention anything which doesn't support that view. That's just unfair.

 

 

What are the 'facts'? 

Flitcroft, five year deals for a  failed manager, desperate meetings with an inexperienced executive and a manager claiming that 17 players under contract may not be here, throwing away two goal leads that ultimately relegated the club wasting all the good years between 2010 to now. 

Three players pathetically let go when at least 12 players should be shown the door, our best grounds man being pushed out, Colin Garlick pushed out, shocking account figures, no transparency on the SS acquisition, an owner in hiding, questions remain unanswered.. 

And poor old Bill Bratt gets more stick than any of the above!!! 

 

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Certainly not Matlock I'm all for getting shut. Was just curious how the competitive budget was going to be defined. Competitive after we have paid up and got shut of the deadwood, or competitive before this process takes place ?
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5 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

What are the 'facts'? 

Flitcroft, five year deals for a  failed manager, desperate meetings with an inexperienced executive and a manager claiming that 17 players under contract may not be here, throwing away two goal leads that ultimately relegated the club wasting all the good years between 2010 to now. 

Three players pathetically let go when at least 12 players should be shown the door, our best grounds man being pushed out, Colin Garlick pushed out, shocking account figures, no transparency on the SS acquisition, an owner in hiding, questions remain unanswered.. 

And poor old Bill Bratt gets more stick than any of the above!!! 

 

He isn’t a failed manager tho is he. The 5 clubs he’s managed he’s had more success than failure. Yes his last two ( up to now ) haven’t been great but his overall win percentage as a manager is over 40% which is decent. As for the 3 players released there will be more on their way! Poor Bill 😭😭😭

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What are the 'facts'? 
Flitcroft, five year deals for a  failed manager, desperate meetings with an inexperienced executive and a manager claiming that 17 players under contract may not be here, throwing away two goal leads that ultimately relegated the club wasting all the good years between 2010 to now. 
Three players pathetically let go when at least 12 players should be shown the door, our best grounds man being pushed out, Colin Garlick pushed out, shocking account figures, no transparency on the SS acquisition, an owner in hiding, questions remain unanswered.. 
And poor old Bill Bratt gets more stick than any of the above!!! 
 
Best groundsman is pushing it. The only one! Nice bloke, but the pitch was awful.
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6 minutes ago, Matlock Vale said:

Best groundsman is pushing it. The only one! Nice bloke, but the pitch was awful.

Didn't he also get it wrong about how many drains there were, and how many broken? Not the greatest thing for a "best..." CV!

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On 04/05/2024 at 22:55, Warren said:

...We really need to wipe the slate clean on historic criticism and move on so that the poisonous atmosphere has a chance of being transformed to something very positive again. That includes players not being filled with fear about playing at home.

This is true, Warren...however we have too many who seem to glory in being toxic and never letting a part of history be a part of history, and moving on. Some of the most vociferous and yappiest will continue to be so, regardless of how we do this season, and "Fraudcroft" will be a name forever on the tips of their tongues, to be used at every possible opportunity!  

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1 hour ago, LancyTony said:

Didn't he also get it wrong about how many drains there were, and how many broken? Not the greatest thing for a "best..." CV!

How can there be confusion about this? If he got that wrong he wasn't the best? 

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