Hank Julicher

[IpstonesValiant]

not all but some Vale fans need to chill out and give people a chance instead of always questioning and doubting peoples motives and digging up dirt. Perhaps thats a factor as to why Vale struggle to attract potential investors due to negative responses from fans. I understand fans concerns but just saying as the forum often gives out a negative vibe to potential investors.

[RicheyJames]

Hang on, where are we led to believe anything? I'm not reticent about anything either. I just reported what I found in a 30 min google. Let me know what you don't believe and and I'll send you the relevant link.

 

Okay. Sprinturf was sold for $10 million dollars? Source? Hank was a nationally ranked athlete (not sure why this is relevant but what the hell)? Source? And, err, oh, that's about it isn't it?

 

Meanwhile, we'll conviently ignore the bare bones and newly created personal webpage, the company website with pretty pictures in place of actual testimonials, the apparent total absence of media coverage of any of Sprinturf or Blue Sky Turf's many prestigious projects...

[RicheyJames]

not all but some Vale fans need to chill out and give people a chance instead of always questioning and doubting peoples motives and digging up dirt. Perhaps thats a factor as to why Vale struggle to attract potential investors due to negative responses from fans. I understand fans concerns but just saying as the forum often gives out a negative vibe to potential investors.

 

Not all but some Vale fans need to be a little less naive in light of recent history. How long is it since some on here were heralding the massive investment from Ameriturf as the future?

[MagicFlask]

Okay. Sprinturf was sold for $10 million dollars? Source? Hank was a nationally ranked athlete (not sure why this is relevant but what the hell)? Source? And, err, oh, that's about it isn't it?

 

Meanwhile, we'll conviently ignore the bare bones and newly created personal webpage, the company website with pretty pictures in place of actual testimonials, the apparent total absence of media coverage of any of Sprinturf or Blue Sky Turf's many prestigious projects...

 

Totally agree - it's all very self referential. Sprinturf do actually seem to have some history and credibility but all the pictures on Blue Sky Turf's website are Sprinturf developments, it says as much on the page with them on, because Hank was their CEO in the past. You can find identical pictures on the Sprinturf site, together with the details of their manufacturing process and sites. They both seem to have factories in Georgia ( the US state, I presume)

I thought Blue Sky's website looked a lot like Ameriturf's to be honest - the big news story is the Vale project, and for the life of me I can't understand why a supposedly big noise in artificial grass in the US of A would go big on a 5 million investment in an English football league club on what is ostensibly a US website. What I think is even stranger for an American website is that the amount expressed is in GB pounds and not dollars....I didn't think the average American was brilliant at currency conversion, and they nearly always talk in dollars.....it's a bit strange that the article is a direct lift of the Vale publicity rather than one they did themselves.....just odd.

[mcfin]

i have actually got artificial turf in my garden its bob on, just clean it when the dogs been on it , even hoover it now and then.

[MagicFlask]

i have actually got artificial turf in my garden its bob on, just clean it when the dogs been on it , even hoover it now and then.

 

Maybe that's the market they are aiming for, the get rid of the dog crap with a hoover market......easily worth 2 and half mill I bet.........:):)

[Santa]

i have actually got artificial turf in my garden its bob on, just clean it when the dogs been on it , even hoover it now and then.

You hoover your dog? Poor thing.

[Howjy04]

Looks as though he could be the chairman elect .Coming over to discuss .Sentinel today.

[UTTOXETER VALIANT]

i have connections in law enforcement in dallas, apparently he was the man on the synthetic knoll.

[Stone Valiant]

ok, lets end some of the conspiracy theories here. I have spoken with some of my US contacts and here is what I have heard.

 

The man was behind Sprinturf. Whilst there he developed a new type of synthetic pitch technology, one that was harher wearing and more responsive to be like true grass. Through this he got a stronghold in the market. He developed the company from nothing to being worth many millions of dollars, for which he sold it, from where he continued to work for them as a specialist consultant (particularly as the patent for the new turf is in his name and not the companies.

 

So far, his story is not dissimilar to Mark Sims with BGC.

 

However, he reached a point a few years ago where he got a bit bored with just being a specialist consultant, so he took his money, and his patent which is where the money is , and set up blue sky international. He is now expected to repeat the success with Blue Sky as he did with Sprinturf, but this time his business model, as suggested by the company name, is to not be a US based company, but a worldwide one, which is why, for him, the Port Vale deal is a big deal.

 

He would have no intention of personally sitting on the Vale board, he will be far too busy establishing this new company in a worldwide market, although it is expected that he will put forward a trusted representative (no idea on who this could be, but I'm sure the conspiracy theorists will throw a few names in)

 

Apparently he is not a man to be messed with, being ruthless in business helping to drive through his success. He does not take to fools gladly and will not be anybody's puppet, so the good news there is, don't look on him as joining a cartel to prop up ML, but in turn, if he don't get what the UK football business is about, and he is as stubborn as Bratt, then we could be in trouble, but for now, I'll take his success in business as read.

 

Going by his history and a certain amount of narcicism, he reads no different to 95% of successful US CEO's!

[Burslem Academicals]

Hank sold the company for 10 million dollars so not even 8 million pounds and has not even visited Port Vale....

The training complex,USA tours,Community projects is not money into Port Vale but the Board do get 400k for an extra 24.9% stranglehold on the club from someone not interested in the club...that would seem to be the main point as the rest has **** all to do with Port Vale.........how they can spin 400k into 8 million is frankly a lie and this is the same as the signed Ameriturf deal as it

is only 400k into the club but this time the bluesky magic numbers

have been sprinkled with fairy dust....

So Melzack the property developer is involved who is a friend of Selman the property developer and this 2.5 million for "community projects" sounds like the old regeneration grants gravy train....infact

how much of this 7.6 million is loans and grants although none of this is money into the club....basically it is just 400k and the nightmare scenario of that extra 24.9% so that the Board can never be challenged at an EGM ever again.

 

It is not 1.2 million into the club of new shares on day one and it is not a 5 million investment into the club and it does not clear the debts and it does not have a business plan for the club but might fund a loan player.

[Central Scrutinizer]

Sounds like a good porn name anyhow.

[KEV.WILLIE]

Hank sold the company for 10 million dollars so not even 8 million pounds and has not even visited Port Vale....

The training complex,USA tours,Community projects is not money into Port Vale but the Board do get 400k for an extra 24.9% stranglehold on the club from someone not interested in the club...that would seem to be the main point as the rest has **** all to do with Port Vale.........how they can spin 400k into 8 million is frankly a lie and this is the same as the signed Ameriturf deal as it

is only 400k into the club but this time the bluesky magic numbers

have been sprinkled with fairy dust....

So Melzack the property developer is involved who is a friend of Selman the property developer and this 2.5 million for "community projects" sounds like the old regeneration grants gravy train....infact

how much of this 7.6 million is loans and grants although none of this is money into the club....basically it is just 400k and the nightmare scenario of that extra 24.9% so that the Board can never be challenged at an EGM ever again.

 

It is not 1.2 million into the club of new shares on day one and it is not a 5 million investment into the club and it does not clear the debts and it does not have a business plan for the club but might fund a loan player.

 

Thank god at last someone with a bit of common sense who can see this for what it is....................

[sandyford_valiant]

Hank sold the company for 10 million dollars so not even 8 million pounds and has not even visited Port Vale....

The training complex,USA tours,Community projects is not money into Port Vale but the Board do get 400k for an extra 24.9% stranglehold on the club from someone not interested in the club...that would seem to be the main point as the rest has **** all to do with Port Vale.........how they can spin 400k into 8 million is frankly a lie and this is the same as the signed Ameriturf deal as it

is only 400k into the club but this time the bluesky magic numbers

have been sprinkled with fairy dust....

So Melzack the property developer is involved who is a friend of Selman the property developer and this 2.5 million for "community projects" sounds like the old regeneration grants gravy train....infact

how much of this 7.6 million is loans and grants although none of this is money into the club....basically it is just 400k and the nightmare scenario of that extra 24.9% so that the Board can never be challenged at an EGM ever again.

 

It is not 1.2 million into the club of new shares on day one and it is not a 5 million investment into the club and it does not clear the debts and it does not have a business plan for the club but might fund a loan player.

 

Good post BA..

[IanW]

ok, lets end some of the conspiracy theories here. I have spoken with some of my US contacts and here is what I have heard.

 

The man was behind Sprinturf. Whilst there he developed a new type of synthetic pitch technology, one that was harher wearing and more responsive to be like true grass. Through this he got a stronghold in the market. He developed the company from nothing to being worth many millions of dollars, for which he sold it, from where he continued to work for them as a specialist consultant (particularly as the patent for the new turf is in his name and not the companies.

 

So far, his story is not dissimilar to Mark Sims with BGC.

 

However, he reached a point a few years ago where he got a bit bored with just being a specialist consultant, so he took his money, and his patent which is where the money is , and set up blue sky international. He is now expected to repeat the success with Blue Sky as he did with Sprinturf, but this time his business model, as suggested by the company name, is to not be a US based company, but a worldwide one, which is why, for him, the Port Vale deal is a big deal.

 

He would have no intention of personally sitting on the Vale board, he will be far too busy establishing this new company in a worldwide market, although it is expected that he will put forward a trusted representative (no idea on who this could be, but I'm sure the conspiracy theorists will throw a few names in)

 

Apparently he is not a man to be messed with, being ruthless in business helping to drive through his success. He does not take to fools gladly and will not be anybody's puppet, so the good news there is, don't look on him as joining a cartel to prop up ML, but in turn, if he don't get what the UK football business is about, and he is as stubborn as Bratt, then we could be in trouble, but for now, I'll take his success in business as read.

 

Going by his history and a certain amount of narcicism, he reads no different to 95% of successful US CEO's!

 

Thanks for that SV, seeing these comments and research from an avid V2001 out campaigner such as yourself helps to put across a bit more of a balanced view.

 

I remain (very) cautiously optimistic about this deal, I sincerely hope it is as good as the club make. I would still, however, like to see more transparency as to the exact details of where the money is coming from, and how exactly it will be spent.