Emile

Paterson was worse

Moore just needs a break. Everyone keeps saying we're down but is still getting upset at losing matches. There are enough games for us to turn this around so I'm gonna keep hoping - and I'm gonna be upset when we don't get the points we need. But I've also stopped watching games, I'm not wasting my money not enjoying my Saturdays and Tuesdays. Maybe I'll get behind the club again next season if DF has gone.

I said it in the summer and was told I was being stupid as we hadn't assembled a squad or kicked a ball - but it was pretty obvious where this was heading

No

I'd retire to an island somewhere and watch the games on ifollow if I were her

Seems like the old arguing with idiots / loosing battle phrase can be used here

Congrats to Carol and Kevin. No expectations on my side for future investment - I actually want a sustainable football if that is even possible these days.

Instead of saying how lucky we are to have such a good manager let's stick to the target - if DM can keep us up hes done a great job. If he can't, he's failed. Not necessarily his fault, and not necessarily worth sacking him for it. That can be judged at the end of the season. We've got a manager with good pedigree, a good track record in most jobs and is well respected in the game. That's great, let's focus on surviving now and then we can go back to the circle jerk at the end of the season

I have to defend Carol for only interviewing on person. If she had only Interviewed Pep and given him the job nobody would be complaining. Well possibly Rory but that's another story. The 5 year contract and more importantly the bizarre lauding up of Darren's wife's opinion and that of the family of the coaching staff are concerning. We fans were telling her it was going wrong last January. She didn't listen because probably Flickers' pet rabbit said he was great at ensuring fresh carrots were in the cage each day. Although realistically the carrots were probably oranges but his wife gave him the target of feeding the rabbit so he's met the target.

If you get rid of the end of the season you miss out on months of prep for singing the right players. The sooner the better

I don't blame them for that one. I blame them for getting rid of a manager that epitomised what port vale was all about and blaming only him for the way we collapsed after January 2023. What should have happened is AC is manager until the end of the season and then we hired a new management team that also epitomised the club. Someone else that everyone was going to get behind. We also should have realised that the failings of last season were because the squad assembled post Jan23 wasn't good enough and we needed to either replace the recruitment manager or not make the same mistakes again. Instead, we kept the coaches who wouldn't get a job at Stone Dominos (who were working for DFs brothers business by the way) and made the same mistakes in the transfer windows. And you wonder why we're in this position?!

I feel for her but the optimism from the club has been drained since January 2023 when we looked like a club on the edge of the playoffs. One shocking transfer window later and we lose our manager who really exemplified how the fans wanted us to be - desperate to win football matches, gave honest interviews and respected the fans. He was made the fall guy instead of a real investigation as to what went wrong and we scraped by the skin of our teeth. Then, instead of taking the chance for change, Carol let DF give the manager's job to the assistant who was taking training since January and as responsible for the crap on the pitch as the previous manager. Two more dreadful transfer windows and that's that then isn't it. She has started to make amends by getting a decent manager in 9 months too late. She can repair things even more with the fans by announcing DF is leaving at the end of the season and conducting a proper recruitment process for a head of recruitment/director of football. If that were to happen, regardless of what division we are in next season, fans will be more patient and forgiving. If she continues to back DF it's going to get worse here, particularly if we are relegated then it will become unbearable. I really hope she can see what she needs to do.

I hate the way we pick on players at this club. Can't imagine it's unique to our club but I just don't agree with singling people out. I didn't watch the game today but sounded like most of them were <ovf censored> and most of them have been <ovf censored> all season.

To be clear - I am 100% against Carol and Kevin selling the club unless they want to get out / can find someone willing to pump in a load of money into the club. Although bad decisions have been made, I don't want to lose the best owners we have had in my lifetime

I made this thread so I could show the difference between the % of people who want Carol to sell the club vs wanting DF to be relieved of his duties.

I think choosing not to renew your season ticket because you are not enjoying going to games is fair enough. Football clubs don't have a god given right to your cash That's a different way of framing it to protesting against the DOF and / or owner

We need 19pts to ensure safety Write off these games; Derby, Bolton, Leyton Orient Very winnable games = Fleetwood, Exeter, Shrewsbury, Cambridge = 12 pts That leaves Wigan (A), Oxford (H), Burton (A), Bristol Rovers (H), and Northampton (A) for 8 points. I still think we can stay up, but its going to be really close and I think we will go into the Cambridge game needing a win to stay up.

Looks like reading have pulled away from the drop zone Two places left in the fight (Fleetwood and Carlisle already gone for me) and how many clubs are at serious risk of going down? 3?4? I think we have to win the three team group of us, Shrewsbury and Charlton - tough ask!

I'm in! Cmon Lofty!!

We can win this. UTV

Back 4 and 3 up front with wide players please.

How many young players were out there and better than those two? We were never going to be able to replace them with better young loan players. We should have changed tactic

Yep listened just now. As a vocal critic of DF I am sorry to hear he has had abuse - no place for personal abuse - it's just a job. Singing for him to get out of the club is a different thing - fans are entitled to their opinion. Overall my feeling hasn't changed; - Timing of the interview is interesting. Would we have got this podcast if we had hired a manager that the fans weren't happy about? - We could have gambled on a PL2 player who DF thought might not be good enough - they would be better than a Dipepa surely?!? - No mention of the left back - All our striker options we blame the other club or the player - there is no acceptance that we are perhaps fishing in the wrong pool - Long-term plans are great but short term we need to address the mistakes that have been made - If we can afford Darren Moore now - who could we have got last summer when the club needed a reset? - If we had let Crosby go after the Cheltenham game when it was painfully obvious he wasn't up to the job we would have had an opportunity to get more points on the board and the new manager's influence in the squad. The same pool of players available yes, but managers have a pull and also their own feelings of the kind of players we are missing. I think he has done so good things and some bad things. Hiring a bad manager last summer and the overall transfer windows since being promoted to league one are enough for me to think someone else could do a better job in that position.

DM usually plays 3 5 2 so I expect that was part of the reason as to why he was recruited The two is interesting though - not sure how we play 2 up front currently

He's got a job at Royal Mail? Nah seriously, we gotta back him until the end of the season - maybe in the summer he moves on but for now he is a vale player!