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Are you going to change your username to 'Vale till the end of the season'? [emoji16] Good on you VTID, we need all the support we can get. One win and the right results elsewhere can materially change our prospects in one afternoon. Let's hope that comes about on Saturday

Some of you don't half love wallowing in your pits of perpetual misery! [emoji1787] We got a point and a clean sheet. Yes well probably still go down, but each game is new. Win on Saturday and there's more hope.

I agree. Wilson and Debrah have to at least hit the target with their chances. But at least we're actually making some chances and keeping at it

What game are you watching?

Here he is, right on schedule [emoji1787]

Hope that 90 off year old who's just come out with the Orient team is their striker

Tonight's going to be interesting to see how DM approaches this. We really do have nothing to lose now. I'd rather lose 6.2 than succumb to another 2.0 defeat having not got out of our own half. Hope DM sees it the same way.

Just paid for ifollow. Why am I putting myself through this again? [emoji1787]

I wonder if the bloke who threw his season ticket onto the pitch walking out of the Paddock has been reunited with it? Be just his luck if he gets it posted back to him [emoji1787]

You were lucky

Glad someone else saw that as well

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But they've been answered. Asking again and again won't change the answers nor the situation. That's the point.

Spot on. People love asking the same questions over and over, when most have been answered to a large degree by both Carol and DF, simply because they don't like the answers given as it doesn't suit their rhetoric or agenda

Simply my own opinion of the percentage success of that season's incomings (the named players). The total incoming is the first number of each line

Don't get in the way of a good OVF 'fact' from Dave in the pub

You can't just isolate DF in all of this. Who employs DF? Carol. Who hired DF? Carol. Who continues to support DF? Carol. Without Carol, there's no DF. To suggest that he's got her over a barrel, has brainwashed her is both ridiculous and insulting to Carols intelligence. For the record, I love Carol. We'll NEVER get an owner who genuinely wants the best for the club as she does. I trust her judgement, and don't pretend to know the ins and outs of bringing players in. I swear some of you think it's as easy as saying oh, we want him and they magically arrive and will be guaranteed successes. DF is really no better or worse in the transfer market than how it worked previously imho. This is my take on the last few years recruitment success to this season ('success' being very generously applied by and large): PRE DF: 9 - Grimmer, Lines, Dickinson, Griffith - 44% 24 - Veseli, Andoh, Marshall, Streete - 16% 13 - Ikpeazu, Inniss, Alnwick, Streete, Foley - 38% 30 - Jones, Eagles, Bikey - 10% 29 - Worrall, Whitfield, Pope - 10% 22 - Clark, Conlon, Oyeleke, Legge, Joyce, Brown - 27% 16 - Taylor, Amoo, Burgess - 19% 13 - Rodney - 8% POST DF 23 - Cass, Politic, Harratt, Garrity, Benning, Jones, Pett, Walker, Wilson, Proctor, Hall, Charsley - 52% 15 - Harrison, Butterworth, Ojo, Forrester - 26% 20 - Ripley, Devine, Arblaster, Chislett, Debrah, Sang - 30% Do any of you actually know what role DC and AC have played in recruitment? Do you really believe that DF signs every player on a whim and does not consult the manager at all?

So those who won't agree with the perceived 'majority' view will be scabs and it's a case of mob rule? Jesus Christ

So sick of all the name calling, abuse, etc being directed at all and sundry on social media and at games. Most of you are grown men FFS. Surely the most effective way for those who want to protest is to vote with your feet and your wallets. Don't go to games, don't buy a ST, and basically don't put any money into the club at all. This will give Carol only 3 options: 1. Increase her subsidy of the club to keep it going and DF in place; 2. Sell the club, which would mean DF goes too; 3. Get rid of DF and hope the missing fans return. Hitting someone in their pocket is usually the most guaranteed way to effect the change that some of you crave

I admire your optimism re DM but I've seen nothing to suggest he's the great manager many have made him out to be. Even DC managed to take stock of and then organise and galvanise the worst Vale squad in 20 years into an effective unit to achieve what was needed

@Brian johnson I concede defeat. Today has broke me to be honest. But this has at least made me feel a bit better. See you all next season

So to sum up: 1. I wasn't personally invited to this meeting so I'm not happy; 2. The statement doesn't include a second by second account of what went on so I'm not happy; 3. The statement doesn't say exactly what I want to happen so I'm not happy; 4. On account of the foregoing, I'll presume every negative thing I can from what I don't know went on. Some of you don't half love banging your gums incessantly. Until DF goes, it's clear that some are never going to accept anything coming out of the club. Then it'll move on to blaming DF for everything in the years after that as being a legacy from his involvement, before the blame for a failed signing moves to Carol/new manager. I really don't know why Carol bothers.

So: Crosby out - Achieved Flitcroft out Carol out Darren Moore out All the players out bar Garrity and Ripley Patrick out? Hancock out? I said when Carol took over that the vicious cycle would repeat itself in a few years, as it's always the fkin same with you lot. And so it has. Some of you really do have very very short memories and demand the earth for the £300 you pay every 12 months. As for the comment that this team is the worst in 40 years. It's not the worst in 4 years, let alone 40 for Christ's sake.

Same.

On the abuse point, he did specifically mention Fleetwood and the home game, but also online which his family were apparently reading.