5 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

They are business people fgs. First and foremost.

 

Yes they are are local business owners. But how far back does the affinity to Vale go? 

I always thought the Shanahans were lifelong fans whom just happened to have a busness here

 

That illusion is now shattered. Yes I would be more trusting  of a life long fan (Bill Bell and Bratty) for having the desire to take the Vale forward

At the moment Vale are going back...and no real excuses given Vale are one of the biggest in the division from a fanbase and ground size plus financial veiw. The DOF is failing the club where it matters most...on the pitch. Like it or not, I and others are fast becoming very suspicious

Clearly not the biggest or close to biggest club in league 1

Just now, Brian Johnson said:

Try run a football club without any season ticket money. 

People will always buy season tickets regardless, me included, look at Oldham / chesterfield 

Just now, Brian Johnson said:

Try run a football club without any season ticket money. 

Try run a football club just on season ticket money 

7 minutes ago, Packmoor_vale said:

And we need her 

 

2 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

Try run a football club without any season ticket money. 

Good point , Brian 

Season ticket holders 

Are guaranteed income 

Edited February 7, 20242 yr by Nippy Naylor

Just now, dazzerjames said:

You are missing carols point/s

She’s standing by the bloke who other than an awful last transfer window has delivered on every single objective set. 
 

you can keep shouting but you are effectively turning on the owners clearly. 
 

 

 

You made it that people are having a go at Carol. No one was having a go at her until she opened herself up to criticism this afternoon.

Standing by a man that's failed in 3 transfer windows and how many wins have we had since Jan 1st 2023?

So, you are saying by having a go at Flickers, that in turn is having a go at Carol?

 

2 minutes ago, Vtid said:

Owners come & go at some point tho, so do the players & other staff. Fans don’t, it’s the fans that matter at the end of the day football is for the fans 

Very true regarding us fans 

Donno don’t want us full time 

Robbie obviously would be the one but leave honest he don’t look like he ever will 

I really can’t see anyone else out there ready lose a small fortune 

2 minutes ago, dazzerjames said:

Clearly not the biggest or close to biggest club in league 1

Orient certainly aren't as big as Vale

 

Exeter?

Stevenage? Carlisle? Fleetwood? Burton? 

 

4 relegation places there??

 

2 minutes ago, dazzerjames said:

People will always buy season tickets regardless, me included, look at Oldham / chesterfield 

Look at last nights attendance.

Look at the anger from last night that's severely increased at a dramatic rate sine about 3pm this afternoon

2 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:

 

Good point , Brian 

Season ticket holders 

Are guaranteed income 

Don’t quote me on that but ignore my question to u about how u know DF has told Carol spend the money on infrastructure not the team 👍

7 minutes ago, dazzerjames said:

You are missing carols point/s

She’s standing by the bloke who other than an awful last transfer window has delivered on every single objective set. 
 

you can keep shouting but you are effectively turning on the owners clearly. 
 

 

 

Was one of the objectives relegation?

4 minutes ago, Packmoor_vale said:

Try run a football club just on season ticket money 

OK. Lets see what team is going to be next season when their around 1500 - 2000 season ticket holders that will not renew.

If you think this season's been a struggle wait until next with the reduced income

9 minutes ago, Packmoor_vale said:

Try run a football club just on season ticket money 

Come on mate the fans are always sticking their hands in their pockets whether it’s tickets, hospitality is always fully booked, shirt sales through the roof & record sales & times etc it’s not just a season ticket is it. Money at the fan zone etc we try & do our bit. That’s not me saying she doesn’t because I have no idea what the budget is or how much she’s backed Flitcroft 🤷‍♂️ 

Edited February 7, 20242 yr by Vtid

17 minutes ago, dazzerjames said:

Twitter mainly I use, it’s hard to read some of the absolute nonsense.
 

Feel like sending an open letter back to Carol reassuring her that as much as this last 3 months has been rubbish , she has also been the best owner we have had. 
 

the silent majority will certainly agree 

What are you talking about?

Honestly, 99.9% of ALL Vale fans believe she and Kevin are the best owners we’ve had in our respective lifetimes, NO ARGUMENT!! 
The formation and tactics implemented by Flitcroft are not working, NO ARGUMENT!!
In January PVFC were desperate for a LWB and at least one striker, Flitcroft failed to deliver, NO ARGUMENT!!

Do you see a pattern here? 

Please write your stupid letter and tell her the truth. The only thing Carol is being criticised for is her blind loyalty to a man who is failing to deliver on some elements of his job description. Sadly those elements are the ones that matter most to Vale supporters; performance and results.

It’s looking very likely we will be relegated and who, according to Carol and Flitcroft, is ultimately responsible for all matters relating to the football. I’ll give you a clue, it wasn’t Andy Crosby or David Dunn.

I've made mistakes? This patronising open letter is equal to the stupidity of backing flitcroft when the majority can see that he's a failure... clueless, rudderless joke of a custodian 

Just now, Brian Johnson said:

OK. Lets see what team is going to be next season when their around 1500 - 2000 season ticket holders that will not renew.

If you think this season's been a struggle wait until next with the reduced income

What are u on about? 
We need her as much as she needs us surely u can get your head around that