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5 hours ago, Bobnewtonian said:
You re right he didn’t but he did intimate that the dross he was seeing now compared to his 50 years of watching the vale was putting him off attending games …. And I m frankly amazed at that. Mind you he also said we d had 3 shots in our last two away games so maybe he s having a rough Christmas !
My post compared us to teams who were promoted around the same time as us which I think is a fair comparison and shows that we aren’t as badly off as many on here would portray.
anyway 3 points today would be nice else I will lead the protest march round Burslem!!
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From the original post the only comparable club is Bristol Rovers.
FGR sold half of the team after promotion losing star players like Kane Wilson and Nicky Cadden plus the manager.
Exeter are a fan owned club relying heavily on the academy to keep them afloat.
Rovers kept the squad together and have invested like us. Both of us sacked a manager since getting promoted.
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6 hours ago, Bobnewtonian said:
You ve kind of answered your own question though…. The number of fans through the gate dictates a large portion of the budget… 2000 for an fa cup replay and 10000 for a league cup semi final is pretty pathetic really.
It’s a saying used by many pro s in the game…. Constant running down of the club and foul mouthed chanting will deter families from attending and increasing our supporter base so we aren’t covering ourselves in glory are we from a supporter point of view.
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Ask yourself why only 2k bothered to turn up for FACUP. That’s not even half of our season ticket holders. That’s the question Carol needs to be asking,
Boring football deters supporters , doesn’t matter which league that is.
Not creating good chances, no player with a crunching tackles, no player to dribble and try take the opposition player on, managers negative tactics.
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Don’t let 30 minutes fool you. Barnsley had a cigar on all game.
Well done Shorrock and Lomax.
Rubbish. We didn’t do I the basics which us running and tackling. Pathetic performance
Crosby Out!!
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A talented player but not one to be relied upon.
I wouldn’t extend his deal.
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1 hour ago, Bimbleabout said:
I'm really not interested in anything you say anymore. Your self righteousness is beyond nauseating and antagonistic and the fact you mock a 10 year old lad, in tears, supporting his team at Christmas just sums you up. To think your a grown man is just embarrassing for you .
For the record someone furthur up said it was the worst for decades.
Keep up Brian, that's if you can, which you obviously can't .I said Home matches were the dullest, as in boring to watch.
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24 minutes ago, Tony Rodriguez said:
I have always thought clubs have a natural place in the league hiarachy. To me we have always been a mid table League One side which is where we are now having spent a number of seasons below our natural place.
We have just taken 7 points out of 9 having played really badly to earn 4 of them which is usually something that is considered a good thing. The other 3 came from playing really well against a side on a long unbeaten run.
We have 26 points and have not reached the halfway point of the season yet. 42 points was enough to stay up two years ago.
We have a manager who toes the party line and gives really bland and frankly uninteresting interviews. Like most football managers.
I really do not understand what all the toxicity is about. We have long term plans of the sort we have not seen before and if you look at the progress on and off the field over the past few years then it is working. You can rearrange the staff employed to carry out those plans but any replacements will be working within the same progressive structure.
I like where we are going and am philosophical about the fact that, as in all sports, form is something that comes and goes.
I’m unhappy with him as manager because home matches are the dullest for decades, he talks absolute <ovf censored> trying to pull the wool over supporters in his interviews, tactics are 1 dimensional and his in game management is poor. He talks like a coach, looks like a coach. Not a manager in a million years in my view.
7 points from 9 and still a section of fans want him out. That’s doesn’t bode well. Only going to be one winner, Carol and Flicker are delaying the inevitable if the revenue is not generated.
The attendance Boxing Day is going to be an acid test, attendance ,performance and result.
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Crosby Out.
Simple as that.
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2 hours ago, Guppys left peg said:
Probably doesn’t suit our system but seems Charlton making a headstart on a clear out for January
I’ve posted many times in other windows about Charlie Kirk. He’s a quality player at this level and I think he would suit our play very well.
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9 hours ago, Emile said:
We have an u21's manager with an u21's mentality - play in a set way, attract good loanees and hope it results in enough points at the end of season to stay up whilst developing some of our own young players to turn a profit. DF said as much in his recent interview.
Nail on the head right here.
Nice club Port Vale.
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15 hours ago, fuzzyvalefan said:
Well yes I have had a drink, many drinks but none since February. I am a recovering alcoholic and have been sober for 10 months so well done for making light of that. Even chaired my first AA meeting last week. I have also been to virtually every match this season and not a single drop of alcohol or any mind altering substance has been in my body for any of them. I suspect given your comment that you cannot say the same. So I would suggest my recollection of the season is pretty damn accurate. I invite you to re read my post and point out exactly what you disagree with. I don't post very often so this is a summary of my thoughts over the last few months so it's length is fairly reasonable. The irony is I suspect it's u who has embarrassed yourself when u re read the thread. But again, pick out the points you disagree with.
FuzzyValefan I just wanted to say congratulations on your hard work for 10 months. You should feel really proud of yourself. Keep on the right path.
All valid points from your OG post.
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Based on the potential money generated to reach a 2 leg semi final against a PL team its right up there with any game in our recent history.
What that could do for us as a club on and off the pitch could be incredible and propel us forward many years.
Huge huge game. Could be a real defining moment like the classic win vs Spurs which allowed Rudgie to start spending and buying generational talented players for the club.
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Just now, Devine intervention said:
Fantastic match today loved it
A much deserved win
Thank you mate . I was not going to bother today, I was so fed up of it but I talked the other half into as well this morning after reading your rally call post.
Fantastic game.
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Best we have played this season by a mile. I thought we got the ball in the box a bit quicker and we had 3 or 4 players in the box most attacks which was similar to Tuesday. Crosby has clearly changed it after 6 goals in 2 games.
We probably should have been out of sight 1st half and I still think a striker with presence would have had a few tap ins today.
Players clearly playing for Crosby and they showed a lot of <ovf censored> to go again after conceding 2 poor goals.
Chizzy gets the headlines but Devine and Blaster I keep watching thinking how on earth have we got them? Both were was unplayable today. Massey picked up where he left off on Tuesday with another impressive performance and please I’d like to see more of this Ryan Loft.
I just need Crosby stops talking nonsense trying to pull the wool over supporters eyes. Amazing the recover powers of our players. I don’t think he will make that mistake again!
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7 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:
Or substituted so they would be fit for today? End of game management cost us the game? Always more than one opinion.
So why doesn’t he say that?
Instead he comes out with all sorts of <ovf censored>.
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Amazing the powers of recovery from our players.
Any bets on Sang coming on at halftime?
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7 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:
Football doesn't work like that in that a new owner won't have the funds, or football doesn't work like that in that having more funds won't get us into the Championship?
The romance of Carol selling, making a nice return on profit for herself and family then attending as a fan watching the club move on to better things.
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14 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:
For a while, I have held the controversial view that things are only likely to get worse for the Shanahans from here - I think mid-table League 1 is about our ceiling as a self-sufficient club, which is what we're trying to be. Anything sustained beyond that requires external investment with no guarantee of return. We hit the exact same bump when Smurthwaite wouldn't fund us to the next level in 2014-15, which precipitated him trying to go outside the box with the Bruno experiment and failing spectacularly because he was offensively unintelligent.
The work the Shanahans have done, with a few bumps on the way, has been very successful and we're 10x the club we were when they took over.
If I was advising Carol, and thank God I'm not, I'd tell her to leave on a high, retain a seat on the board, make most (if not all) of her money back, and depart as a legend of PVFC with something named after her. She'd be kept on as a valuable source of information, be able to enjoy hospitality as a fan, and goes down as saving PVFC and turning us around. Not many would object to the Shanhan Suite, or the training ground being Shanahan Park - and I'd personally go as far as renaming the Hamil End the Shanahan Stand. There simply wouldn't be PVFC without her. We'd be in the 10th tier as AFC Burslem Vale, Norman laughing his socks off.
I do fear that the longer she stays though, the more difficult it will be to marry progression with cost-cutting, and fans will start to (as you say) grow disappointed at what they felt was another false dawn. This isn't me wanting her gone, and I'll back her till the day she goes, but it's just my honest take about what the next few years will look like.
Of course, this is all contingent on there being buyers.
That’s a very romantic notion predicated on a new owner having the funds required to be successful to get into Champ.
Football doesn’t work like that.
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50 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:
That's so kind of you, thanks. But it also explains why I have no hair!!
He’s got no hair but we don’t care Bycars BycarsBill😀
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15 hours ago, Bycarsbill said:
I don't mean this as a boast, but I've clocked-up even more years than you-this is my 70th year of attending Vale Park. I say that only to give context to why I empathise so much with what old school has said. And yes, I too will be at the game tomorrow. What is it they say?...............Through thick & thin.....UTV!
Congratulations on your 70th anniversary.👏👏👏👏
Respect that. I feel new to the club now.
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I don’t see why we would extend Wilson.
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3 hours ago, PV1993 said:
As has been stated by ourselves and Flitcroft, a few need to leave so that we can get fresh faces in.
The goalkeepers are sorted, no issues there.
I would say we have an abundance of centre halves
On the right we can play Cass or Lowe
On the left we can play Jones or Iacovitti
That leaves Smith, Debrah and Balmer all vying for that ‘no-nonsense’ position. I don’t think we need all free, so maybe Balmer will go back? That said, I think it’s more likely we will see Cass leave, although I do like him on the right.
Holding midfielders we have Ojo, Arblaster and Walters. I’d argue Sang too although he has been pushed out wide due to our severe lack of wing backs. Lowe can also cover there (although I’d rather he didn’t). Conlon also fits here although out of favour.
We also have a number of no.10s - Devine, Garrity, Chislett, Massey… even Grant before he became a LWB (admittedly before he joined us).
My main concern is the lack of natural full backs. As I have stated on previous posts, we only have Mitch Clark as an out-and-out natural wing back. We need a pacey LWB and one more on either side as back up. Then maybe we can stop playing people out of position.
As much as we all would love a striker, we are so over stocked in some areas, and under in others. Wing back has to be our priority
Interesting your idea returning Balmer. I’d not thought of that but if it frees up a wage to help get players in areas we need then it’s a good shout.
Conlon and Cass you’d expect to leave as they can’t even make the bench.
I think we need pace at both WB positions and a Striker. Using the same logic with Balmer I’d return Thomas if it helped to free up cash for a 1st choice Striker.
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5 minutes ago, Granville said:
An open question - what genuinely do most of us think is a realistic target for us this season.
I've been a supporter of Crosby but his recent record is hard to defend.
That said, are we pretty much where we should be given our second season at this level, our budget, our transfer activity, size of fanbase?
My own personal opinion is that I think we are slightly beneath where we should be, but talk of top half finishes and play off pushes etc aren't realistic.
I'm just interested in what others expectations are?
Has to be comfortable mid table which would be progress against last year.
If we finished the season now , I would say it’s been a poor season taking into account our budget, permanent and loan signings.
My caveat to midtable is to have a team which is more interesting to watch who can get you up out of your seat. I’m really envious of teams like Peterborough who have pacey players who have skill to beat a man with a we are going to score more goals than you attitude.
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41 minutes ago, Osh said:
In other words… these are <ovf censored> no excuses 😂
He said we shouldn’t be where we are when he looks at our team. Something we can all agree on.
Barnsley (H) match thread - Boxing Day
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When your manager thinks your GK is the teams deep lying playmaker your in trouble!
I stopped counting after I ran out of fingers on 1 hand to count but it’s beyond ridiculous the number of times we win a free kick or throw,30 yards from the opponents goal and Ripley has the ball at his feet on the edge of our area.