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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    4 hours ago, LancyTony said:

    If a player leaves a club whilst still under contract, the club he's leaving have the right to agree a transfer fee. If his club agree that the move is the best thing for both parties, then the contract can, effectively, be torn up. Or, his club can offer to pay him some of his remaining wages to facilitate the move, including loan moves. 

    Said the same earlier, but someone isn’t listening, as they still think the remainder of the contract MUST be paid up in full. 

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    Posted · Edited by PV1973

    8 minutes ago, mbycars said:

    I have never known a player to be transferred and the club has to pay up his contract. I just can't see how that could happen. Charlton come in for Uche, Vale agree to let him speak to them, then he goes and we pay a salary for a player we don't have. It's financial madness. Why would we agree to let a player move on if we still have to pay for him. Not having any of that.

    It is absolutely true though. The player could turn around and say I didn’t ask to leave, but you’ve agreed a fee (or he’s told he can leave for nothing because they want him out), so he asks for  a percentage of his wages. It is genuine. 

    January Transfers and Rumours

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    All the talk of uche going and us having to pay his wages is a real grey area. There are many ways it could go.

    We could demand a fee or else he isn’t going anywhere. 

    We could let him go for no fee if we just wanted him off the books.

    We could come to an agreement over his last 6 months and not pay the full amount but pay a percentage of it. 

    He could get a signing on fee / increased wages / longer contract there and ask us if he can go for nothing. 
     

    it’s not cut and dried that a player has to have his full contract paid up. It just depends how negations go between the clubs and agent. 

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    1 hour ago, Brian Johnson said:

    Even when we are on a crap run and we are creating or scoring diddly squat, he never changed it.

    His arse was on the line at half time v Barnsley.

    But there’s a massive difference between getting hammered by half time and still being in the game at half time, despite what we may think of what we have or haven’t created. It’s face it, if he hadn’t changed it he would have got criticised for not changing things. So it’s whatever suits the narrative isn’t it. 

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    2 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:

    He's had all season to change the way we play at half time v Barnsley? It was desperation from Crosby 

    Of course we were desperate to get back in it somehow. But without  checking any stats I can’t think of another game apart from the opening match where we were so far out of it at half time. 

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    42 minutes ago, werstayinup said:

    With the deal for Uche breaking down i wonder if Wycombe will come in again for him considering the rumours suggest he failed a medical.

    The club are clearly happy for him to talk to other clubs so does that spell the end for him anyway here? I have no idea

     

    1 hour ago, Brian Johnson said:

    If you think Uche is a class act, god knows what you would be like if we actually had a class act striker.

    A Dr would need to give you an injection every day to calm you down

    The thing is that football clubs up and down the country have seen what Uche can bring to a team and have bought him in to do a job. He isn’t making a career of it by being totally crap. 

    37 minutes ago, mr.hobblesworth said:

    That might not be true, his contract could stipulate that he can talk to other clubs and it could be his agent hawking him around. 

    The old dreaded nasty agent theory. No contract is going to say you talk to other clubs if you want to. It may have a release clause in there. Maybe other clubs have contacted us and come in for him who are looking for a striker like him? Maybe we’ve told him he can go as we’ll get a fee? Maybe he’s unhappy here and wants to leave?  Maybe he hasn’t brought to the team what we thought he would and we have someone else lined up? Maybe he’s going to get more money by moving? Loads of factors come in to play and other clubs will know he only has 6 months left in his deal. 

    39 minutes ago, Conrad said:

    Not often I agree with you but in this case I do agree, he ditched it because he knew he was getting close to being sacked.

    I disagree. We’re losing a game that we need to get back in and what we were doing in the first half wasn’t working, he had to change it and whether we were top of the league or bottom I think he would have done the same. 

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    9 hours ago, JRC said:

    It looks likely Cass and Conlon are going. Arblaster has gone. Hopefully we'll have a positive start to this window. LWB and central midfield are the 2 most pressing areas, with Ojo also out. 

    Outside that a centreforward would be nice, although I suspect hard to secure. They need to decide what Sang is. He's never totally convinced as either a RWB or midfield player.  If they see him primarily as a midfield player then a RWB, unless Clark is likely to be back sooner than expected.  Cass doesn't need replacing as we have plenty of centrehalves. Provided Devine stays I think he plays better in centre midfield,  so I'd look for another 10. Two out, maybe 3 or 4 in would be my guess. 

    Agree with this and now I think l we can see where we need to strengthen. Wingback / fullback who can give us more options to change things during a game, 1 centre mid (poss 2) and someone creative like Airblaster. Be interesting to see what happens with Devine and Balmer too.

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    37 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

    Having sat in front of the Devine family on Boxing Day, who weren't best impressed and not shy of letting folk know, I think there's a decent chance he is recalled next month.

    It’s bad enough watching your kids playing amateur football and trying to get involved by saying stuff to fans / other parents being negative at that level. Cant imagine it’s worth having a pop at fans around you in a crowd of thousands at a professional game. 

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    1 hour ago, darren1810 said:

    I think Conlon is done. It's sad how it's panned out as 2 years ago he was our best player. 

    Possibly too laborious for the way we try and play now. And if he couldn't make the bench v Barnsley then when will he . 

    I think the writing was on the wall once he had his shirt number taken off him. Now he can’t even make the bench when we have a lot of injuries which clearly says that Crosby isn’t having him. Wouldnt be surprised to see him off to Cheltenham in January. 

    55 minutes ago, Walka003 said:

    Arblaster going back is a huge loss to our survival hopes.
     

    It’s a shame, he’s been good for us. But equally he’s also been playing in a side doing poorly so Im not convinced he’s as pivotal to us staying up or not as people may think. He can’t do it on his own. Hes a loan who was always going to go back given factors like how Sheffield are doing, how well he’s played individually, the big injury he just suffered and how the mood has turned here too. Now we need other players to step up to the plate or we bring in someone as good in January. 

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