fuzzyvalefan

I don't know if there will to be honest. Football fans are very fickle. If we rebuild and are challenging for promotion or playoffs next season we all know crowds will be up not down on average, we will be televised a few times and will probably have a lower wage bill plus the much maligned new suite and corporate facilities will be bringing in twice as much revenue over the summer months before a ball is even kicked.

Well if he has its not really appropriate for a loan player coming in to a side that's in deep relegation trouble. If it comes between backing someone who is under contract for next season and one who will be gone in a few weeks there is only going to be one winner. Of course this scenario has been invented in the mind of one poster and then presented on here as a near certainty.

I was thinking as backup when there are injuries only. I do think Walters is ready for League 2 as he is more physical than the others.

Realistically I think we have a good crop of youngsters who can provide adequate back up in League 2 but only really Walters and Shorrock should be potential starters. Players to keep: Ripley, Leutwiler as backup, Debrah, Smith (but think he wants to leave), Clark, Garrity, Chislett, Plant, Jones, Sang, Ojo, Walters, Dipepa, Lomax, Shorrock, Ikpeazu, Wilson. Can't see Uche staying. Wilson is worth keeping on a smaller wage but he has to be one of 4. I make we need about 7/8 additions and we are desperate for leaders and physicality.

Nah she won't mind. I bet your stamina and libido are up, amongst other things 😉

You buying?

Sensible post and difficult to disagree with any of it. Carol deserves better and so do we.

OK then. Won't be missed by me. Flitcroft is a different story however.

Well that's what happens when you spend 2 years at Sheffield Wednesday

Are you on crack?

I try to remain positive but how anybody could clap that embaressment of a performance is beyond me. I'm not someone who is going to get angry and aggressive at our own players but i did boo the performance as it was completely unacceptable on every level. But surely you cant applaud it. That assumes there was plenty of effort there which there just wasnt today. First time under Darren Moore I have said that too. You just leave quietly. I mean what were you actually applauding the few who did. That they turned up for the coach on time and managed to put their kit on correctly? Genuinely would like to know.

He's gotta go sharpish for me. He should be in the position now of identifying two sets of targets- one for league 2 and the other for league 1, and I don't trust him with either task. DoF a failed experiment for me. With Moore's connections his role is redundant. We need a chief scout who can spot a striker. Martin Foyle perfect choice for me.

Exactly. I think Liverpool won the league one year in the 70s with 14 players. Just doesn't happen today. The grossly inflated Champions League has a lot to answer for. The old European Cup was a direct knockout. You could win it by playing a handful of games. Again it all boils down to money.

No chance. He is here for the foreseeable. He's an easy target when emotions are running high, I am as guilty of that as anyone, but you can't judge a director of football in the same light as a manager. A managers job is getting results in the here and now, they live or die by results. The director of footballs job is more about the long term so can only really be judged in 2/3 year cycles. Case for Flitcrofts defense is that 2 out of 3 managerial appointments in my eyes have been good (and even the harshest critic would struggle to say Crosby didn't deserve a chance given the job he did in the promotion season when Darryl was off), the loan signings we are getting are better season on season because players report back that they had a great experience and those links with big clubs are developing (Rhys Williams was a gamble worth taking because he would be immense in League 1) and I do think Gore will be pivotal because he is a huge upgrade on Massey as a wingback) and the signings are better too. Remember the days of Danny Pugh and Anthony Kay in midfield (shudder). Ultimately he will be judged on next season, not this. As for this transfer window, January windows are frenetic. You have 30 days to sort everything and not much could be done until funds were freed up. Ultimately the collapse of Uches move to Charlton and subsequent injury meant those expected funds never came. Just wasn't the time for plan B after that. Its a bit like moving house, you are waiting for 2 or 3 things to happen and if one falls through it puts paid for everyone. I moved back in with my parents temporarily before Christmas while I rented a new flat. I'm still here and it's nearly March. The one wildcard is the free agent market and playing for Darren Moore is a much more appealing prospect than playing for Andy Crosby so may still come good. Also has a lot more relevant contacts and players who have played with him before. The rumour I've heard is Dwight Gayle- he's desperate for a short term deal to put him in the shop window, lives locally and did well under Darren Moore at Sheffield Wednesday. He doesn't need the money, just the game time.

The cashless thing is a pain in the arse but understandable. Under the old regimes, it was a poorly kept secret that there was no proper way to track that cash handed over to casual staff actually ended up in the club cuffers and it was pretty common knowledge that some sticky fingered staff kept a bit for themselves in the back pocket. In terms of questioning are we a club that looks after its own, you only have to go down to the foundation building and Tommy Cheadle's in the week. Food bank on a Friday for locals who are struggling to make ends meet, Golden Valiants on a Thursday which is now in the hundreds in terms of attendance and is a great lifeline for older people who live on their own to get out and socialise and have a bit of fun, Mens support group on a Monday evening, dementia support on a Tuesday- representatives from the council, mental health charities and all sorts of things on duty to help people with issues- the list goes on. Thats not even getting to all the free sports and leisure sessions. If that isnt 'looking after our own' then i dont know what is.

Grow up you child. How often do you speak to Carol, how regularly do you work at or around the club? How many staff do you talk to on a daily basis? Where are you getting your opinions from? Genuinely would like to know because you couldnt be more wrong and the fact that you cant see what Carol is trying to do is just very sad. You must be very very stupid or extremely angry and arrogant. Not quite sure which.

What are you The Master of? Bullsh1t? Also, you have no right to be the self-appointed voice of 'the average fan' because i do not want you speaking on my behalf because you, sir, are talking out of your rectum.

Oh I don't know. Put him in a suit and he could be some mysterious Cold War era Soviet spy. In Soviet Russia, player kicks you.

As someone in recovery like Robbie is you tend to go seek your true passions in life when things were simpler so often you tap into a constant passion that was always there from a young age. For me it has been football. Its a constant and I have really built my recovery around the Vale, working voluntarily for the foundation and I have a meeting with Chris Turner tomorrow. Its no surprise that Robbie has done more and more with Vale especially how he sees how Carol's vision fits in with his own and his money will not only help the community but also Burslem and Port Vale. I honestly think there is some merit to the Sun's article and the evidence is already there. Think the next 30 or so hours will be very interesting. Notice Tom Ince is available and only went for 50k in the summer and lives locally. I wonder. He is still contrated to Reading.

The pitch was a good investment, because it has been like a bowling green all season. Can also understand postponing the match last weekend even though we could have played, the pitch would be buggered for the rest of the season and with 8 games to come in February, we need a nice, carpet-like pitch, as we have a lot of blood and thunder sides coming to Vale Park between now and the end of the season.

Football has changed. You don't have to like it but you have to accept it. You look a bit idiotic if you don't.

Some people are so blind to whats happening. we are replacing departing players with better options loans and permanent. lets see where we are on Feb 1st. i think people will be pleasently surprised if the mood at training on Thursday was anything to go by.

Kellor-Dunn?

To be honest it doesn't have to be a world beater or even a great finisher but someone who has that knack of knowing which positions to be in would have had a hatrick of tap ins on Saturday. Someone who has scored consistently at a lower level would be worth a point because this team will create chances on a plate for someone like that.

I thought yesterday if we had a natural poacher in that team it could have been 6 or 7. Lee Hughes instantly sprang to mind, or Leon Constantine