fuzzyvalefan

But if all the money went on the team you are building on sand. I totally get the frustration though, every decision since Uches sale to Charlton fell through has been fuelled by panic. By the way, that move collapsed because of a failed medical. So maybe trying to improve the training ground isn't such a bad idea.

Exactly. I think Liverpool won the league one year in the 70s with 14 players. Just doesn't happen today. The grossly inflated Champions League has a lot to answer for. The old European Cup was a direct knockout. You could win it by playing a handful of games. Again it all boils down to money.

Get your head out of your arse. Okay we'll do what them lot down the road do then, sack the manager every five minutes with no long term plan or strategy because its working so well for them. I suppose you were one of the pathetic individuals who booed at the end. No scrap that, you probably spent the afternoon on here moaning about a game you didn't even watch. If you want to support a team that wins every week <ovf censored> off up the M6 and go watch Man City, meanwhile us who live in the real world will applaud our team when they put in a bloody good shift and narrowly lose a very good game of football due to 2 worldies and a dodgy ref.

No chance. He is here for the foreseeable. He's an easy target when emotions are running high, I am as guilty of that as anyone, but you can't judge a director of football in the same light as a manager. A managers job is getting results in the here and now, they live or die by results. The director of footballs job is more about the long term so can only really be judged in 2/3 year cycles. Case for Flitcrofts defense is that 2 out of 3 managerial appointments in my eyes have been good (and even the harshest critic would struggle to say Crosby didn't deserve a chance given the job he did in the promotion season when Darryl was off), the loan signings we are getting are better season on season because players report back that they had a great experience and those links with big clubs are developing (Rhys Williams was a gamble worth taking because he would be immense in League 1) and I do think Gore will be pivotal because he is a huge upgrade on Massey as a wingback) and the signings are better too. Remember the days of Danny Pugh and Anthony Kay in midfield (shudder). Ultimately he will be judged on next season, not this. As for this transfer window, January windows are frenetic. You have 30 days to sort everything and not much could be done until funds were freed up. Ultimately the collapse of Uches move to Charlton and subsequent injury meant those expected funds never came. Just wasn't the time for plan B after that. Its a bit like moving house, you are waiting for 2 or 3 things to happen and if one falls through it puts paid for everyone. I moved back in with my parents temporarily before Christmas while I rented a new flat. I'm still here and it's nearly March. The one wildcard is the free agent market and playing for Darren Moore is a much more appealing prospect than playing for Andy Crosby so may still come good. Also has a lot more relevant contacts and players who have played with him before. The rumour I've heard is Dwight Gayle- he's desperate for a short term deal to put him in the shop window, lives locally and did well under Darren Moore at Sheffield Wednesday. He doesn't need the money, just the game time.

We've gone nowhere as a club? The investment in the club has been immense. When you spend time at the club in the week like I do the difference around the place is immense. Rome wasn't built in a day. All of those investments that people moan about, the scoreboard, the new suite, the community work- they are all ultimately money spinners (even the community work improves the reputation of the club and attracts new fans- have you noticed how many more families come to Vale now- these kids are the next generation of die hards- essential in this day and age when you can watch any match you want online on a Saturday afternoon) and even the much maligned director of football and sales pitches to players mean our loans are so much better than they used to be. Its all about long term planning. It may not save us this season but it means we will be in a strong position to bounce straight back and push on again. In a way it mirrors people's thinking about the passing it around at the back, sometimes a temporary backwards step is a necessary evil in order to move forward in the long run- case in point- our second goal today. I swear if more people spent their prematch somewhere other than the pub there would be a lot less moaning on a match day and on here.

In fairness he's worked with them in training for a day.

I'm sorry that is Utter garbage. Unlike you I did go today and yes there was poor defending and we don't score enough but you cannot fault the effort today. That was an intense clash and it was blood and thunder in every sense and we gave as much as we got in the effort front. In fact for me (and I can't believe I'm about to type this) the standout Vale player today was public enemy number 1 Ryan Loft. Best game in a Vale shirt by a country mile.

Popped into the club this afternoon. Tickets gone back but can be bought on the day from Cheltenham. £2 extra but getting a student ticket so will still be only £15.

We could do with a Loft conversion. I.e.- convert him to a player with footballing ability

Darren Moore would be a good appointment. Good record at this level. Anyone who watched last year's League 1 playoffs know how good he can be in making changes to get a result. At 4-0 down after the semi final first leg, Wednesday had absolutely no right to get promoted yet promoted they were.

Spot on. I'm thinking that this minority of idiots slagging off Wilson probably did go to the game but only after consuming half their body weight in cheap lager first. In terms of pure technical ability, Wilson is arguably the best player Vale have had in the last 10 years and its only his injury record that has caused his career to stall at League 1 level. When we play him with the right partner such as Proctor in the promotion season, big Uche as his fitness improved or even Ben Garrity we see his quality. No option to play him alone today with Chislett off him because there are simply no other options and he was one of our better player regardless.

Tamworth is classed as Staffordshire too. And as commutes go for a football manager, its pretty easy. Millions of people do that sort of commute every day. Used to do it myself for years.

Funny that because I saw the exact opposite, a team that was all over the place defensively, could not react to 3 half time changes and shat themselves after the equaliser but in fairness to them they did keep going and battled for a point, but it was a game that should have been done and dusted by half team. At best, they looked like a team that has the potential to be comfortable in this league but look desperate for leadership, direction and focus.

Because I have a pair of working eyes probably. He's not a lone striker though and expecting him to play as one is ridiculous. But here we are with no other option. And your penis could be a 10 incher but pointless if you can't keep it up.

Must have been watching a different game. Along with Ojo, Wilson is the only other player with genuine quality and he ran himself into the ground for very little reward because the players around him are just not on his wavelength. Tried a lot of good things but unlikely to work with the players around him. We always look a better team with James Wilson on the pitch and its no coincidence that the vast majority of points we've picked up were done so when Wilson has been fit. The fact we are still so reliant on someone who can't stay fit is down to terrible recruitment from our director of football, and if he could stay fit he wouldn't be playing in League 1.

Fair old commute from Ramsay Street.

It would tell me that they think time is better spent talking to a potential manager with the aim of making an announcement today. If the players know the new manager is in the Lorne Street watching, you would hope it would give them the kick up the arse needed.

You can prove anything with stats. 8 out of 10 people know that.

Well they're an older couple. Things in bed wouldn't be what they once were. Anybody would be distant during the 'bed spells.' Better than being completely absent altogether.

The cashless thing is a pain in the arse but understandable. Under the old regimes, it was a poorly kept secret that there was no proper way to track that cash handed over to casual staff actually ended up in the club cuffers and it was pretty common knowledge that some sticky fingered staff kept a bit for themselves in the back pocket. In terms of questioning are we a club that looks after its own, you only have to go down to the foundation building and Tommy Cheadle's in the week. Food bank on a Friday for locals who are struggling to make ends meet, Golden Valiants on a Thursday which is now in the hundreds in terms of attendance and is a great lifeline for older people who live on their own to get out and socialise and have a bit of fun, Mens support group on a Monday evening, dementia support on a Tuesday- representatives from the council, mental health charities and all sorts of things on duty to help people with issues- the list goes on. Thats not even getting to all the free sports and leisure sessions. If that isnt 'looking after our own' then i dont know what is.

Grow up you child. How often do you speak to Carol, how regularly do you work at or around the club? How many staff do you talk to on a daily basis? Where are you getting your opinions from? Genuinely would like to know because you couldnt be more wrong and the fact that you cant see what Carol is trying to do is just very sad. You must be very very stupid or extremely angry and arrogant. Not quite sure which.

What are you The Master of? Bullsh1t? Also, you have no right to be the self-appointed voice of 'the average fan' because i do not want you speaking on my behalf because you, sir, are talking out of your rectum.

Oh I don't know. Put him in a suit and he could be some mysterious Cold War era Soviet spy. In Soviet Russia, player kicks you.

As someone in recovery like Robbie is you tend to go seek your true passions in life when things were simpler so often you tap into a constant passion that was always there from a young age. For me it has been football. Its a constant and I have really built my recovery around the Vale, working voluntarily for the foundation and I have a meeting with Chris Turner tomorrow. Its no surprise that Robbie has done more and more with Vale especially how he sees how Carol's vision fits in with his own and his money will not only help the community but also Burslem and Port Vale. I honestly think there is some merit to the Sun's article and the evidence is already there. Think the next 30 or so hours will be very interesting. Notice Tom Ince is available and only went for 50k in the summer and lives locally. I wonder. He is still contrated to Reading.

The pitch was a good investment, because it has been like a bowling green all season. Can also understand postponing the match last weekend even though we could have played, the pitch would be buggered for the rest of the season and with 8 games to come in February, we need a nice, carpet-like pitch, as we have a lot of blood and thunder sides coming to Vale Park between now and the end of the season.