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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    2 hours ago, Lifelongvalefan said:

    I don’t understand where our money has gone given the kids that went Aston Villa and Newcastle plus other transfers the cup run play offs Wembley shirt sales we NOW need to invest in players all will be lost ,if we go down to division 2  I will not be renewing my 2 season  ticket plus parking if that happens so take a good hard look at yourself vale and look after the fans and that coming from  me a 55 years season fan 

    Let me get this straight, your way of encouraging the club to invest money is to give them less money to invest?  Interesting logic.

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    League one relegation watch

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    6 hours ago, Walka003 said:

    She said at the fans forum that she came off social media because of people critising Flitcroft.

    Poor little Flick, he might be a monumental failure but he doesn't deserve people talking about it!

    I think she said it was people, a small minority, criticising her rather than Flitcroft.  She basically said it’s become toxic.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    Just now, rsb said:

    May be i should have put Vale instead of Crosby .

    No maybe about it.  David Flitcroft has laid out the blueprint for the football side of the club.  He oversees recruitment.  Crosby, or whoever we have as manager in the future, is tasked with implementing the philosophy at first team level and likely as not will not have full control over recruitment, playing style or even team selection.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    As stated elsewhere, one of the key takeaways from the fans forum was that between now and the end of the window we’re only aiming to potentially sign 2 more young loans.  This would be all well and good if we had a fully fit squad with strength in depth in all positions to which we were looking to augment by adding a bit of quality competition in some positions.  This is obviously not the case as we were already weak in certain areas prior to the latest crop of injuries, with Uche added to the list yesterday, in addition to losing the 2 quality loans, Arblaster and Devine.  To make matters worse we’re sitting just above the relegation zone with “games in hand” rather than points on the board.  Each window should allow teams to strengthen but in our case we’re simply replacing the loan players we’ve lost and we’re back to square one in terms of having to get those players up to speed, we’re definitely not stronger.  Additionally, we have no idea as to how soon the longer term injured players will be out for but what is fact is that they too will take time to get up to full speed.

    The club seem to be taking a real gamble here, calculated or not.  The only positive I see in this overall policy right now isn’t the tie ups with the top clubs but the fact that we’re in the fortunate position of having a crop of youngsters capable of playing at this level, but even this is somewhat offset by their inconsistency.

    Bit of a ramble.

     

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    51 minutes ago, valeparklife said:

    I think some fan bases favour certain styles over others.

    Vale fans seem to prefer a more "up and at 'em" style, over patient, slow approach.

    Adams > Page

    Clarke > Crosby

    I think Stoke are the same. Must be an area thing?

    I think the majority of fans will accept a more patient approach if there’s some end product, which in my view there was earlier in the season, we just couldn’t finish in front of goal.  Towards the back end of our winless spell it had all become slow, crab like passing.  In fairness it’s up to the more advanced players to give the defenders some decent options when we’re playing out from the back and often our movement was poor.  In the ideal world we’d be “up an at ‘em” without the ball and play a high tempo passing style when we have possession……if we have the players to do this.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    11 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:

    So Crosby is a yes man then? 

    My memory is not short. You read my posts because you always have a pop at me but I was saying right from the off that I'm not getting or seeing what other people were seeing. 

    People were coming on here saying I can not believe that we have not battered them etc but i was seeing a team having loads of possession and not doing anything it but people were going overboard on it.

    The dire run that we went on was no surprise to me and obviously once we have more players available again, they are going to revert back to playing that way. Which is why they have no problem in moving Uche on because that style of play does not suit him

    Just to be clear, I’m not having a pop at you personally, I’m having a pop at what you say in this instance because I disagree with a lot of it and you saying that people were coming on here saying pretty much the same as me suggests you’re possibly in the minority, who knows?  There’s no doubting our form tailed off and we got stuck in a rut of passing for the sake of it and everything being too slow but prior to that we played some lovely football.

    You could say Crosby is a yes man but ultimately he’s employed to do a job and there will be certain criteria he has to adhere to, like anyone employed in any job.  If his employer tells him they want the team to play a certain way because the club want a certain identity as it’s all part of a plan then he’s got 2 choices.  As far as Uche goes we’ve already seen that the club won’t stand in the way of any player if said player wanted to leave for any reason, and Charlton would certainly be an attractive proposition for a player in our league.

    All this could, and likely will, be asked at the forum.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    28 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

    We were rubbish, boring and slow playing that possession football which is why we went on a real bad run.

    Against Northampton it was boring.

    Once it got changed, everything took a step up & the fans were getting excited & behind it which to be fair, the fans were really getting disgruntled leading up to it.

    I have mentioned this quite a few times already but the way that we started to play was stumbled on at half-time against Barnsley because Crosby was no doubt on the verge being sacked & and he gave up his believes to save his backside in that 15 minute half time break.

    Your memory is shot.  Earlier in the season we were playing some great possession based football.  That is a fact.  Ok, towards the end of our barren run things had got too slow and turgid but even during that run we’d played well in games, we played great in the cups away at Mansfield and Burton for example.  As I said, your stats are just nonsense because there are also games where we had low possession numbers which we lost.

    Crosbys hand was as much forced by the injuries to the squad along with players he had available rather than any desire to change the philosophy.  Our recruitment will tell us what that philosophy will be going forward.  Joe summed it up in an earlier post, it’s the way the “club” want to play rather than just Croz, he’s simply tasked with delivering that at first team level.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    7 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:

    My apologies.

    My point is that we have been playing better and scoring more goals since we abandoned the tippy, tappy boring slow possession football.

    You do not need to have loads of possession to score goals and win games of football

    Your stats prove little.  Look at the numbers for the wins v Cobblers or Wigan for example, both of which we won with loads of possession from memory.  Equally there are plenty of games where the opposition had more possession than us and won.  Tippy tappy football is fine, possession is fine, the only bit you’ve got right is the tempo.  There has to be some zip no matter what style of football we wish to play.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    31 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

    He's probably only got 1 lung which is why he is failing medicals and is gasping in games 😁

    No idea if, or why, he’s failed a medical but to be fair he’s finished the last few games a lot stronger.  You only need to look at the guy to realise he’s not built for endurance, he’s all power and strength.  You’re not going to see any distance runners built like Uche that’s for sure.  If he’s puffing and blowing towards the end of a game then at least it tells you he’s putting the effort in, which he is, and most fans can see and appreciate that.

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    January Transfers and Rumours

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    Uche came in on a short term deal to get himself fit and put himself in the shop window, so it’s hardly surprising that despite his lack of goals other clubs are interested.  Vale have been pretty clear that they won’t stand in a players way if the player wishes to move so the chances are that he, or his agent, would be having the conversations with interested parties well before now. He’s looked fitter and better with each game and has been a vital part to our recent change in style.  One look at his record will tell anyone he’s unlikely to become a goal machine but his other attributes make him a real asset and a good option even if only from the bench.

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    Crosby In

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    1 hour ago, WV said:

    I think the reason he is still in a job is because there is going to be a big change in January and they want any new owner/major shareholder to be able to bring in their own man. 

     

    Either that or we genuinely can't afford to sack him, which doesn't bode well for bringing in players to improve the first team. 

    How do you come to these conclusions?  Maybe we’re just trying to improve each window, to use an often quoted phrase, in a way that’s financially sustainable. 

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