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2 hours ago, darren1810 said:
Does it though?
I can't begin to speak for that community. But does having a rainbow ball send out any real message?
If anything it's almost patronising.
Ryan Atkin, England’s first openly gay professional official, added: “The Rainbow Ball is a powerful emblem of diversity, pride, hope and activism. It demonstrates that football recognises its status and impact on society and that it acts on all forms of discrimination, ensuring everyone can be part of the beautiful game.
“I feel very proud that my colleagues and I will be the first people to handle the ball, as we bring it across the white line ready for kick off.”
Think you may be a little bemused over this being patronising, Darren? Maybe, if you don't belong to a particular community you ought to get their thoughts first?
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23 hours ago, JoeB2 said:
Fundamentally it is all on Carol.
She didn't have to appoint him.
She didn't have to give him full control when working part-time.
She didn't have to go along with all the silly infrastructure stuff.
She didn't have to sack anyone with any degree of football experience and replace them with family and friends.
She didn't have to appoint Crosby without speaking to anyone else.
She didn't have to stick by Flitcroft as he continued to balls up windows.
She didn't have to choose to side with Flitcroft over the fans when they started to raise concerns.
She didn't have to belittle the fans who were worried.
She didn't have to keep employing a DoF responsible for 11 wins in 53.
Sorry, we can discuss the flaws of the DoF all night, but bucks stops with the decision-maker at the top. Carol has caused all this through conscious, bad decisions she's made which has been driven by a resentment of the average fan.
Even for you this is a pathetic post! Carol didn't need to do any of those things - that bit is true - but, as the owner, she chose to...in exactly the same way as any business owner, anywhere! If those decisions turn out to be bad ones, then Carol will have to face the consequences of those actions, and determine her next strategy. If, however, the decisions that have been made as part of a transitional phase turn out to have been good, and well-intentioned, then she will reap the benefits and decide her next course of action.
As for the sentence highlighted in bold - what a load of paranoid tosh!!!!
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35 minutes ago, The Master said:
I’ve met her.
Flitcroft has her wrapped around his little finger.
Crosby ain’t for me.
Pipe down. You don’t even know who I am.
I don't care who you are. You're not the only person to meet Carol...and to suggest that about a level-headed woman displays a shocking lack of respect. I do know who you are - you're a <ovf censored>...oh...sorry...that's what you are!
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48 minutes ago, Black N White said:
Why don’t you shut it and your mouth while your at it?
Hahahaha
You can only be a Stokie -
Think you're hard, but full of lard!
How's your window gone, braindead??? Many players deserted your stinking ship?
Shut the door when you finally <ovf censored> off!
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47 minutes ago, Black N White said:
Have you stopped 👏 yet.
Why are you still hanging around like a bad smell?
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44 minutes ago, Warren said:
I haven't studied FFP rules closely enough. But the breach of rules consequences seem to be sporting. That is a deduction of points.
If a club gets in overall financial trouble then the directors have a duty to address that. They need to bring income and expenditure back into line. If they cant do that they should stop trading or maybe sell the club to someone who will introduce new money. What they should not do is continue trading at a loss so they run out of money when creditors of all types cannot be paid. HMRC are often the ones to bring the final curtain down then if NI and Tax due haven't been paid over.
So...that never seems to be enforced?
I'm not sure what the levels are for EFL, but Prem teams are supposed to lose no more than £35million per year, over a 3 year accounting period...£105 million total. Everton seem to have fallen foul by losing the £35million...or more, in the 4th year, and so exceeded the £105 over 3 years ruling. I think there defence may be that they're being judged on 2 of the the same 3 years' accounts...twice? Whichever - it's not something I'd like to happen to the Vale!
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49 minutes ago, The Master said:
What I will say is let’s not get abusive towards Carol. She’s clearly gaslighted by Flitcroft and possibly Crosby.
Both of who couldn’t care less about Port Vale Football Club. They are all about their own “philosophy” and progressing their career at the detriment of the club.Wow - could you be any more condescending towards Carol? - a successful businesswoman? Perhaps you should meet her and mansplain what she's doing "wrong"?
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50 minutes ago, Black N White said:
You can shove your season ticket renewal up your arse!
Players sold left, right and centre and all we do is replace them with loans.
A joke of a club. Joke of a chairwoman!
<ovf censored> off Stokie!
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43 minutes ago, Black N White said:
Haven’t got a pot to p*** in.
Where’s all the money gone Carol?
Time to go!
Bye...shut the door behind you <ovf censored>!
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6 minutes ago, Warren said:
If I was the accountant I'd see it this way .....
The club should have a total annual budget and also likely a total medium term budget over say 2-5 years.
The budgets should have separate cost centres covering all the different types of income and expenditure. So player wages is likely one cost centre, depreciation will be another, season ticket income another etc.
So the owners and managers should set up budgets that are realistic and reflect what they want to do. They will decide what should be spent on player wages. What needs to be charged as depreciation is a little more deterministic since it's a calculation based on accounting standards.
Coming to your question the respective budgets are separate but ..... The total budget for the club reflects the overall financial targets. At the extremes that is influenced by the needs to remain solvent and trading whilst also complying with the financial fair play rules etc.
Hence real life comes in to play. Most obviously if season ticket sales / attendances are significantly different than expected that should impact the wages budget. If attendances are down 2k then all the club's expenditure budgets are challenged and a reduction in the budget for player wages should be expected. Otherwise the club will sooner or later run into significant financial trouble. We've been there before! Very bad.
I separated the player staff budget because - as far as I know - it's the only budget to have to conform to the Profit and Sustainability rules, under FFP? I realize that, if the Club's income is more / less than they anticipated, there would need to be some juggling. or there would be a bit more cash available...but, largely, it's the players' transfer fees and Salaries that have to be more closely monitored, so they don't fall foul of FFP?
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6 minutes ago, The Master said:
...I heard Carol has come off social media because of the abuse towards “Dave”…..
Well Carol, you haven’t seen anything yet, should results go bad in this next fortnight.
She is becoming so far disconnected from the average fan who can see that all is not well and that Flitcroft needs shoveling back up the M6 where he came from.With crap like that who needs enemies?
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4 minutes ago, WV said:
That should be the question everyone wants answering tbh.
It's not a question.
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19 minutes ago, philmpv said:
...On your logic, if a young shop girl doesn't serve me quick enough, it's acceptable for me to call her all the names under the sun and basically treat her like crap because I'm paying a quid for an item? But it only seems to apply to footballers
Nope - the shop girl analogy happens, too!
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15 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:
I understand why people think they should be able to say what they want.
My point is why they would want to… In my simple brain, slagging a player off could lead to them losing confidence which means they won’t play as well.
And I can’t see why I would want a player of Port Vale to not play as well.
Just seems counter productive to me.
Each to their own though I guess.
Well - we see plenty of that on here, IC...and they don't like it when it['s pointed out to them! Maybe, if we stopped being over-critical, some players might respond to that?
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15 minutes ago, MiddleportValiant said:
Like I say, they've paid their money. They're entitled to an opinion. That's reality.
That's BS!
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16 minutes ago, MiddleportValiant said:
Always has been and always will be like that whether its right or wrong you're in the public eye! I'd love someone to call me sh** every week if it meant I was on their money! That's the reality. At the end of the day we pay money to see this as its our form of entertainment within the community as lont as its not taken to an extreme I.e harassment or threats then an opinion will always be that.
Sorry - but most of that is on a par with "with the money he earns how can he be depressed?"!
Mental health issues are no joke and shouldn't be treated as one!
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17 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:
Some people on here are either stupid or delusional if they can't see the vale are sinking but nevermind ,you crack on
But - at the moment it's only your opinion!
And some people on here complain about name-calling and being abusive, too!
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24 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:
while we waited for the deadline… a side note from the supporters club meeting where Jessie Debrah is answering questions.
I have never understood why people think it’s a good idea to continuously slate the latest boo boy. It just doesn’t help the club, or the player.
They don't care that their words may be adversely affecting someone - as long as they get to open their big gobs and show how clever they are!
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21 minutes ago, Smallthorne clampet said:
Is it all about the money now then?
And a step up for a promising young man!
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21 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:
Wow - didn't see that one coming???
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19 minutes ago, Warren said:
If the club sticks up a new block of toilets. That's capital expenditure and will create fixed assets that go in the balance sheet. This asset will then be depreciated over an acceptable number of years - say 30 years. Some parts of the asset like the building might be 50 years plus. The charge to the profit and loss account annually will be depreciation.
On the funding side the club may take out loans or leases which would also create charges to the profit and loss account.
So it doesn't affect the playing staff budget? Just want to hear that for definite, because stuff like that always comes up as a reason we've not brought as player in?
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1 hour ago, PV1973 said:
No why would he? He was going back to his parent club.
it could have been missed. He might not have told Liverpool about it. It could have been more serious than he thought it was. Or who knows with football, it could be a smokescreen for another reason .
I think, judging by other comments, that it's something other than an injury? And, if so...and quite rightly, Vale are not giving explanations to people who do not need to know, and not damaging the reputation of a young man who potentially has a career in football? It's only theory and I guess we'll never know...nor do we need to!
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1 hour ago, Jacko51 said:
...We have money but we are not going to spend money we don’t have just to stop blokes like you getting your knickers in a twist.
We will never manage to stop that until they all join the management team!
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1 hour ago, WV said:
Yes, I do. You don't have to believe it, that's up to you as always but I would have thought it was blindingly obvious when you look at our transfer activity and the fact we can't fix a roof on a toilet block. But for what it's worth, yes, we don't have any money,.
You still don't know if it's true - you're just guessing, without much logic behind it! Stadium refurbs and player signings are from different budgets - neither affects the other one! And I think it'[s been stated there is no point spending cash on a repair job - there will be a proper rebuild soon?
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Lincoln City (H) match thread - 24th Feb
in Port Vale present
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That's a great question for so many on here!