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On 04/03/2024 at 22:36, Spunk Trumpet said:
You see, you carry on debating with me and you carry on making yourself look stupid.
You go and quote me on where I once said I expect or even want Darren Moore to be sacked. Then go and quote me on where I said I want Carol to sell up.
You go and waste your night hunting those quotes.
You won’t.
Because I’ve never said that.
I want one man fired and that’s David Flitcroft.And you sound quite angry there. Hit a nerve have I? Thought you were just constantly happy! Clap clap clap.
Enjoy your night.
There is nobody so stupid as someone who plucks figures from nowhere, and gives the yappy ones more chance to air their toxicity. When I say "you" I mean those of you on here who spout the same rubbish - not necessarily you...although you do spout some crap! See how many comments there have been, already, on our supposed wage structure? Just making up figures doesn't make it so...but, If the truth is, indeed, out there regarding those wage figures, you won't mind sharing the links? And I will, of course, apologise to you if you manage to find proof they are real.
Vale "fans" like you do make me angry...but I'm generally a Happy Clapper and pleased my club isn't like Reading, or some of those gone to the National League and aren't likely to be returning. And no...even if we do get relegated this season, I don't see us slipping through to the NL.
So - keep moaning, Spunky - and keep posting crap crap crap!
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On 05/03/2024 at 02:39, Houston Valiant said:
You should probably take a break from this.
You should probably mind your own business?
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14 hours ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
...I would rather be a man and stand up and be counted and fight for this club.Have a wonderful day.
Of all the <ovf censored> you've just written, "rather be a man" is the worst, most pathetic of all! Suggesting you're more of a man than me because I refuse to whinge and complain, and boo and selectively target people for abuse, and slander people and suggest that professional people are not bothered that things are going wrong is a shameful supposition to make! If that makes you a man - it's a poor world we live in!
As to your shopping analogies - if you went into any of the shops in which you normally spend money, and didn't like the service you received, you have every right to complain...but you couldn't (shouldn't) expect the Manager to be sacked or the owner to sell up? If you think you have that right - go - "be a man", Spunkie!
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18 hours ago, Houston Valiant said:
I agree that being positive is much better for your health , but sticking one’s head in the sand and refusing to face reality is not good . You can be a Happy Clapper , fair enough . However , I think you’re seeing the smaller picture . This is a bad situation that we find ourselves, and I’m thinking that it may be worse next season. It’s not who’s right or wrong , it’s just sad.
Do you really think I like what's happened to the team that was challenging for 2nd place, not so long ago? If you think I like that, because I declare myself to be a Happy Clapper is stupidity itself! But I keep looking for the positives because I don't want to turn into one of the toxic gobshites on here, who regularly hurl insults, and patronising and sexist comments towards our owner - forgetting that she is a successful and award-winning businesswoman who has just sold her business (or, one of them?) for more money then the yappies on here will ever see in their lives?
I refuse to become one of the idiots who think nothing of defaming a person's character, and slandering them based upon rumour, hearsay, imaginary events and a complete lack of knowledge of events, or evidence of wrongdoing, or any other reason than they take a dislike to that person, or believe that a League 1 club shouldn't have the setup that we have, because Rudgie didn't - all those decades ago!
I refuse to lower myself to the name-calling, and personal sleights against people they don't even know, in person. Don't expect me to think it's ever a good thing to boo an individual player - are you really so stupid that you think it might help? Or that such a mean-spirited creature that you don't even care what effect you may have on another human being?
Don't tell me I only see the small picture - I actually do see the larger picture...and, for some of you, it's very ugly indeed.
UTV KTF VTID and keep Happy Clapping - because the alternative is bloody awful!!!!!
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On 03/03/2024 at 00:13, Spunk Trumpet said:
How you applaud that week in week out, is beyond belief.
Some of those players are picking up 8 thousand pound a month.
So sadly, that is the definition of a “happy clapper”.
Nobody claps angrily. And if you clap even though you’re not happy then you’re robotic and accept the utter crap you’re given week in week out.
By clapping these robbing useless clowns on the pitch, and the club in general, you will never get the change we so desperately need.
These performances are not acceptable.
The definition of a Happy Clapper is 8k / month??? hahahaha
I know what you were getting at...but...it's a FACT that being a Happy Clapper is better for your health than being an angry, whiny, miserable son of a wretch! And, despite what you may think...being called a happy Clapper is NOT an insult!
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On 31/10/2023 at 15:22, aspin for england said:
Are you the voice of the Vale Boo Boys club
More of a monotonous drone, I'd say?
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On 31/10/2023 at 14:31, Birches Head Fred said:
I'll still be happy and clappy even IF we are out of two cup competitions this time next week - let's be fair, we have entered one of those cup competitions well over 100 times now and still never even got to the Final. As for the other, I think it's over 60 years and we have possibly the worst record in that competition of all the current league teams and have never got past this stage at all so it won't be much of a surprise to see us again capitulate.
It's impossible to predict today if we will actually be out of both competitions but you seem convinced, almost as if you want us to lose both games. For the life of me I can't understand why, I can only assume it's to satisfy your lust for failure so you can come on here and spout your diatribe.
It's not all roses and if you think any 'Happy Clapper' is happy with current results then you really are deluding yourself, I doubt anyone is happy with the current form but the season is 46 games long with cup games to add - just look down the road 5 miles, this time two weeks ago they all wanted the manager gone, now he's the new Messiah.
If trying to see the bigger picture and backing the owners, management and team rather than belittling everything possible is being a "fries short of a happy meal" then I'd rather be that than walk one footstep in your shoes.
That was a superbly-written post BHF!!!
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On 30/10/2023 at 18:29, Bimbleabout said:
Interesting this happy clappers stuff and the way it's belittled and frowned upon.
Anyone would think we were a massive club constantly pushing for Europe and flying up the top leagues with absolutely no room for error, with our multi million pound team and bench. With the best manager money can buy
We're not. We are Vale take the rough with the smooth.
Get behind the lads, that's all they are, young lads, support them and your team through thick and thin.
Or you could just slate everything about our club with delusions of grandeur.
UTV
And - the air is much less toxic in here!
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On 20/12/2023 at 19:49, Osh said:
@tonylancy - m8, someone put a pint in the bar for you but you are sssssoooo late. Had to pour it down the drain m8
I've only just got round to catching up with the Happy Clappers - I was still in Finland, then!!! But, I'll take a pint anytime - in 2 glasses, obviously...I'm a glass half full chap!
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9 hours ago, Davebrad said:
we are a recent arrived first div. club, we haven't got a billion-air owner - to bankroll us, and we are top heavy in back room staff, hence being championship ready but we are only first div. and now struggling to stay in the first div. As for flitcroft and his staff monitoring players they might be but where are these players? we've needed players to improve our team in 3 windows, there was the lone players who did well for us but had to go back, as RZ's said there's only so much money in the pot its not going on players, its not going on the ground ie the toilets in the Railway paddock 3 months of porta loo's up to date really? Hamill's toilets the other week a leak, closed for a match... but we are championship ready and the back-room staff are in place, all ready for the second div.
There is a limit to how much Vale can spend on the playing squad. Anything more than that can be spent wherever is felt necessary? R=The bogs issue has already bee mentioned and a rebuild seems much more logical than a patch up, followed by a rebuild?
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14 hours ago, Davebrad said:
i've said in another post thank you Carol for saving my club from that clown, but if all above is true why the **ck did she splash out on flituck and then let him splash out on ALL the back room hanger ons? (were they all his buddies at the other clubs he failed at)...
but ah-oh, its her money, she can throw it away how she wants, BUT ITS OUR CLUB, thats suffering.
Why are you (and a few others) so obsessed with our backroom setup? There will be few clubs operating old school, and it doesn't affect the playing budget? But it will likely be a long-term project before the various strands start to earn money for the club? And it may be our club, in our hearts, but it's the Shanahan's money keeping it going!
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Just now, Doha said:
I can't remember his name now but there's (genuinely) a locally based priest who keeps framed photos of every single Vale player on the altar on matchdays. He posts photos on twitter. Maybe they're all inadvertantly upside down.
That might explain things! Is his name Osbourne??
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2 minutes ago, Doha said:
Transfermarkt is reliable.
Ryan Loft - Career stats | Transfermarkt
WWW.TRANSFERMARKT.CO.UKUnfortunately, RL hasn't scored a league goal in over 2 years. 10th Jan 2022 for BR against Exeter. 2 bloody years.
DF said in the press release he'd been chasing RL all summer - Loft netted just 4 league goals last season. 2 in the tinpot trophy. It's an inexplicable signing. Harrison, who we effectively swapped away for Loft, scored 11 league goals, nearly 3x as many and given his injury record, works out to be 1 in 3. Loft's last season was over double that. This season it's 10x that, he's on 1 in 30. God help us.
I don't think He supports us? He's more a Man City fan?
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3 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:
It's okay just open your eyes and you'll see the light
Hahahahahahaha
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1 minute ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
...Thats not an opinion.
Thats a fact.
Sorry - but ALL the above was opinion, not fact!
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4 minutes ago, Railwayman said:
None so blind as them that can’t see
None so short-sighted as those who wear blinkers!
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28 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
I can debate all day long with anyone. But not with misinformation.
Firstly. Martin Paterson was crap. It was a mistake. But there are HUGE mistakes in THREE transfer windows.
Now.
Let’s get to your statement that Ryan Loft is a 1 in 4 striker and a 1 in 3 striker at Bristol Rovers. So isn’t that a reasonable target?Have you been listening to Flitcroft? Did he say this? Where did you get this from?
Ryan Loft. Career appearances 194. Goals 33. I don’t make that 1 in 4.
Ryan Loft. Bristol Rovers appearances 57. Goals 7. I don’t make that 1 in 3.Ryan Loft. Highest league he has ever played in is league 1. League 1 appearances. 55. Goals 4.
So should we have chased that player?
Reagrdless of the answer….. we did….. and he’s crap……. and his career stats back it up.Apologies for the stats - I genuinely took them off one website, but can't find which one, now!!! Already had my hands rapped for that one!
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27 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:
We can question it though because we all pay good money to watch it , Fraudcroft has failed in his duties to recruit players when we needed them the most that's abject failure in my book.and he should be binned off asap
As usual, Yappy, you missed the point! I said I wouldn't question someone's ability and professionalism unless I knew them well enough to do so. You don't share that ethic. That's up to you!
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25 minutes ago, Doha said:
1 in 7 including youth goals.
1 in 8.
Not really, no.
Thanks Doha...I guess I looked at the wrong stats?
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14 minutes ago, Houston Valiant said:
That’s it in a nutshell , right there. Flitcroft will take us to the National League if we don’t wake up. He has previous , and the fact that Carol keeps employing him is either one or two things. She’s too stubborn to sack him , or he’s a narcissist. I’m going with the 2nd one.
I don't think he exhibits the tendencies of a narcissist? The guy who burned down my studio, then wondered why nobody wanted him to help clearing up - he was a narcissist!!!!!!
By previous - do you mean Bury??
"He was appointed as Bury manager the following month and quickly found success, being named as Manager of the Month for February 2014. He led the club to promotion out of League Two at the end of the 2014–15 season and kept the club in League One the following season. Despite being named as Manager of the Month for September 2016, he was sacked two months later following a poor run of form" (Wiki)
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13 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
I don’t need to know him personally to question his professional abilities.
Like many things in life you either choose to see the obvious in front of you or you don’t.
Three transfer windows have put us in this position.
I spoke out about Bratt and co years before everyone got him out.
I spoke out about Smurthwaite years before we got him out.
I had dogs abuse from a lot of people. Me and others on here fought to get our club back way before the sentinel and radio stoke got involved. We called that crook out for what he is.Now with Carol I’ve got no issue in her owning the club. What she has done has been amazing in many aspects. BUT like Smurthwaite and Bratt before hand, when you see something isn’t right, I’ll speak up. And I’ll be damned if I stand and watch David Flitcroft RUIN this football club with his excuses and ineptness every transfer window.
Remember. When we go down don’t get angry then. Don’t get angry when we have another shower of <ovf censored> transfer window in August. Don’t get angry when they publish a meet and greet and he manipulates you all again with his lies and promises.
It’s March 1st tomorrow. Still no free agents in the door although remember he told you all we are looking in the market. We’ve been looking in the market for 18 months.
Oh and by the way, on the back of all the <ovf censored> he is getting, he doesn’t even come out and man it up himself in a trip to radio stoke or a letter from himself. Nope. He sends Carol to do an open letter. Or he has enough control over her for her to do that. This is why I see narcissistic tendencies.
Think about it.
I like the things you've done in the past - and Smurftwat got most of us fooled, at the start. And it's not nice getting dog's abuse for expressing your opinion. I find it difficult to draw assumptions about a person, based on no time spent with him - so many of my first impressions have turned out to be false. So, I can't agree with you on that. As for getting angry if we go down again - I will be disappointed and hurt...but I have been before. I still wear those t-shirts!
As fir free agents - we may have been looking, but the consensus is that they wouldn't be up to match fitness in time to make a difference...so that's no real surprise!
DF isn't in a very enviable position - if he has m ade mistakes, he will get your dog's abuse...but worse! But - what if he hasn't made mistakes, and has done what he could? Whatever he says will be throwing somebody else under the bus...probably Carol...unless he doesn't explain fully, in which case people will see through that.
As I say - difficult. I wouldn't like to be him, at the moment.
Thanks for keeping your comments civil!
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14 minutes ago, Railwayman said:
Rumours & conjecture ?
For Christ’s sake open yours eyes man !!
Ok...tell me exactly what's happened? Event by event? Or are you making assumptions...conjecture? And don't go missing bits out, like "we've had 3 bad windows" - WHY have we? Who did we miss out on, and why? Was he working within financial constraints set by Carol? Give me the actual facts, man...not just conjecture and assumption - because - if you don't know the full facts, that's all you have!
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4 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
It’s three windows though pal!! It’s 18 months of it!...
Right now. Hand on heart. You mention Theo Robinson. He’d get a game over Loft.
A player we chased and if rumour is true is on over 3k a week......Ojo, who by the way has massively downed tools...
...A defence who couldn’t keep a sheet never mind a clean one!
...A number 9 who is the worst number nine to EVER wear the shirt...
I partially agree - except, until coming up to Christmas, and Ollie and Alfie got recalled, most were saying how good we looked!
Theo Robinson coming back...again...would have actually caused riots! Loft...aged 26, btw. has been basically a 1 in 4 goalscorer, except for Bristol Rovers where he was 1 in 3. So, oin the face of it, a reasonable target?
I agree with Ojo - he has admitted to being upset when Andy Crosby got the sack...maybe he has downed tools?
A defence that keeps having individuals making silly mistakes that can't be coached out! A mistake is a mistake - we all make them!
Martin Paterson!!!
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16 minutes ago, tommytunstall said:
What a load of tripe. Vale fans with unreasonable expectations, don’t think so, they just want us to compete in League 1. Expect things to happen overnight, we have completely wasted the last 3 transfer windows, and are sliding down into L2, because of total inept management. Unreasonable expectations I don’t think so.
So it seems! And you should know - you are a tripemaster!
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You know this is for Happy Clappers, don't you?
Just let me remind you - booing players is NOT supporting them! Hurling abuse is not supporting them (and I'm using the general "You" - not you, specifically!) And that last line of yours - really? You're resorting to threats, now? Are you going to organise a revolt, or just keep banging your gums and wittering on...and on...and on...?
Oh...and, given you say "Even if we had an half decent defence and a striker that could score we’d give ourselves half a chance!" then it MUST be a great escape, against those odds? That's just logical...yes?