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Well 2 down and all they will do is keep giving the ball away and making silly errors. Fans will be turning now and it will only get worse. Carol - I know you feel fraudcroft is the best thing since a flat white coffee, but you need to get rid of him. Its too late to save Vale's Div 1 league position now, but if he is still here next season, we are looking at relegation again and fans will not be buying season tickets in the numbers you hope for.

Remember that - only a couple left and the next season we got promotion out of the same squad. This lot are not that good to get a win again and need moving on.

Wonder what would happen if Vale get a early equalizer. We score a 2nd and win the game We score and then switch off and they score another within a couple of minutes. We score and the Shrews move into first gear from training mode to score a couple more and then back into training mode. Come on Vale. Just a bit of fight would be good.

Does this defence switch on.

The ghost of Loft is on the pitch and keeps zapping into Vale players about to shoot.

Most fans would want Carol to stay. It is fraudcroft they want out due to his poor performances over the past 2 years. She decided to side with fraudcroft and as such some have decided both need to go now.

Since October.

Going to be one of those games. Their goal keeper has pulled off 2 great saves. Got to get a goal before half time. As you say need to put our chances away, as they look capable of scoring more goals from our fragile midfield and a so called defence.

Did Carol forget to add "bad" after phenomenal. 🤪

Lost up front, midfield and definitely defence. Thank you fraudcroft with your brilliant recruitment over the past 4 windows. Have a free coffee or soft drink. Just wish Carol would see what the fans are seeing. The players are just not good enough. Who recruited them - fraudcroft and the recruitment team. They are just not good enough.

Should have been 2 nil to them, but they are just as bad as us. Shrews players just can't believe the space they are being given by our midfield and defence. Unmarked and our defence are just switched off to their players walking in.

With Fraudcroft at the helm of all football on the pitch, I can see another season of poor recruitment and a relegation battle. Still no strikers and the same reasons used for previous windows. Supporters we were sooooooooooo close to signing the player but he went to another club. Oh by the way we didn't have a back up plan. But there will always be another window and we don't need strikers as we have done so well the previous seasons and we are Championship Ready Club.

So this is how it feels at 2140 hrs on a tuesday and not be deflated as Vale have lost again. But normal service will resume on saturday at 1500hrs.

Just waiting for Fraudcroft to come out with the usual. We just missed out on signing him. Oh well, there is always the next transfer window I can f.ck up for you fans.

Yes cos we are naughty fans according to Carol and this is our punishment. To watch the rubbish on the pitch get beaten by a team not even out of first gear.

I would not say sleepwalking, more like sleep sprinting with recruitment and other things happening in the club. The squad has gone transfer window to transfer window getting worse. Fruadcroft is teflon as far as Carol is concerned for this.

Flat White or Cappuccino for me then.

Oh he will be still here and yep still no strikers signed.

You just have to look at Crosby. He was given soooooooooo many chances to put it right. Finally the axe fell, when the incoming manager could not ask for any money. Fraudcroft has a magic wand and waved it over them so they only see the shitness as brillance. We will be the only non-league team with a sports complex, brilliant training facilities and a 3/4 empty stadium. Oh yes and a big tv screen to show the great parts of the game.

Maybe getting older and fed up with the club going in the right direction and buying into the hype they are getting ValeChampionship ready and then things going wrong and we end up back where we started in Div 2. With this squad we could easily end up dropping out of Div 2 instead of bouncing right back up. Been there when Vale were doing well and just waiting for it all to go wrong, as it usually does for Vale. The way the Vale Board are sleep sprinting into Div 2 after being taken in by Fraudcroft. He came for the managers job and ended up talking a great game and walking out of the interview with the DoF part time and now managed to make it full time. Why wasn't he told to sort out the recruitment the first time around without strikers. No we went into the 2nd season without strikers and again this window we have failed to bring in strikers who could possibly keep us up. While the teams around us bolstered their squads and now putting wins together. This squad go one behind and heads drop and they look like they think another loss is going to happen. Confidence is lacking and hopefully DM and staff will sort that out - you can only hope Carol's open letter basically said the fans mean nothing to her now and we shouldn't voice concerns or ask what the hell is happening at the Vale. It seems as long as the community stuff doesn't get interfered in, she isn't concerned about what rubbish is being shown on the pitch. Yes its great to look after the community - Burslem needs it, but it feels she has taken her eye off what is happening on the pitch/recruitment. A good win or even a scrappy horrible win tomorrow will start the players getting confidence on the pitch and those valuable points between us and the fifth placed team being reduced down as we try to get out of the relegation zone.

She had Colin Garlic to advise her, till he was pushed / decided to leave - depending on what camp you listen to. Things changed when Fraudcroft came for the managers interview post and ended up walking out of the interview with a DoF post which wasn't even thought of needing at the time. Since then he knew he Carol hook line and sinker.

Nearly have tho. Managed to stay in the league. That was a worrying time.

I have watched Vale, all around the world for 50 years. I have had the misfortune of seeing them in Div 2. Always hoping we would progress up the leagues. Each time I, like many others hope we would bounce straight back up. Just when you thought great new owners, setting things up so the club progresses on and off the pitch. Talk the talk about getting Championship ready and now we are well into a relegation battle. Can't see how we are going to get out of the relegation zone due to the rubbish transfer windows we have seen. The squad seems to have got worse, rather than stronger. Carol says Fraudcroft is responsible for everything on the pitch, yet seems to be teflon about taking the blame and doing something about it.

It's the problem. Don't want to pay to watch rubbish on the pitch and no doubt at Div 2 standard and be fans are being taken as mugs and told off by the owner for raising concerns. But without the money, the club have no money to buy players. But then will Fraudcroft actually bring in players that will get us out of Div 2 on the first asking. Nope would be most peoples first thought.

I thought it was a hour as well. But could have heard wrong as the dog wanted something.