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Posts posted by Jacko51

  1. 6 minutes ago, Davebrad said:

    nothing in losing it,its just hard luck, the humiliating thing is not accepting the result...

    There's a difference between not accepting the result and not agreeing with the result.  I accepted it would happen but that doesn't make me think it's the right thing to do.  The Brexiteers have been fighting against our place in Europe since we joined in 1973 starting with Tony Benn and his mates.  Bill Cash has spent his entire career in Parliament being against our place in Europe.  Farage has spent over 20 years as a member of an organisation he didn't want to be a member of but still taking all his salary and expenses.  Why is it OK for people like them to fight against our place in Europe, which at no point was imposed by anyone other than our Parliament, yet it is humuliating for people who voted to remain to say they heartedly disagree with the decision? 

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  2. 36 minutes ago, For Us All said:

    If we can do it on New Years Eve I think we should be allowed to celebrate our Independence Day?🇬🇧 👍🍺 👍

    I thought we were effectively still in it until the end of the year??

    I heard practising Catholic Anne Widdicombe being hateful on the radio this morning. It’s true, God loves a good atheist more than a bad Christian!

  3. 35 minutes ago, Davebrad said:

    A thought for 2301 tonight:

    Churchill did it again 80yrs back..." let us so brace ourselves, that if Britain and the commonwealth lasts for a thousand years, men and women will still say this was their finest hour...slightly updated. to please todays pc world.

    forgive posting early, but I shall be in the pub then...

    Quoting Churchill, a man who was in favour of a United States of Europe, is not the most sensible thing for a Brexiteer to do this evening. 

  4. 1 hour ago, Aussie Rules said:

    Posting a new topic thread in anticipation of the 11pm transition.

    From most reports little will change during the transition period i.e. most EU laws will continue to be in force - including the free movement of people - until the end of December or until the UK has in place a permanent free trade agreement with the EU.

    Interesting times ahead.

    That's because Brexit is a process, not an event.

  5. 11 minutes ago, Paul6754 said:

    Show where he asks for dirt in the phone call, you are inferring it, if the reason for the phone call had been to get dirt on the Bidens, dirt would have clearly been asked for.

    So he just happened to mention the Bidens by accident and his reason for the phone call was just because Zelensky is a good friend?  I bet you still believe in Santa Claus.

  6. 4 hours ago, Paul6754 said:

    There is certainly no quid pro quo or direct pressure on Zhelinsky to start any investigation before aid is released in those words or any high crimes of misdemeanors commited.

    The words involving Biden are a result of ongoing US investigations trying to ascertain whether Zheliinsky, who was elected on the basis of tackling rampant corruption in Ukraine, was being true to his word and aid was to be used as intended and not spirited away by corrupt politicians and the CEO/Burisma (the company that Biden's son worked for) as reported previously.

    Biden and his son's murky involvement in Ukraine is there for all to see and still many people want them investigated, both Obama and Biden were warned when in office about Biden's son's involvement in China and Ukraine but did nothing.

    Interesting Pelosi hasn't sent the articles of impeachment to the Senate so as of now Trump hasn't been impeached, The Dems are a laughing stock.

    Are you saying that it was OK for Trump to ask Zelensky to dish the dirt on the Bidens because he didn't ask for it as a quid pro quo?  For what other reason could he want dirt on the Bidens other than for his own political gain? 

  7. " The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me. "

    Is this not the President asking Zelenskyy to dish the dirt on the Biden family?  Why would he do that if not for political motives.

  8. So is the issue not whether or not Trump asked for Ukrainian help in dissing a political rival - which he clearly did - but whether he tried to bribe them to do so?  Asking for the President of another country to help you undermine a political opponent is OK as long as you don't offer anything in return??  Do the American public really think that is acceptable??

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