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21 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:
Well at the moment it looks as bad as previous years which given the club at the meeting mentioned, I was expecting a much better pre season. Essentially 4 games as Newcastle and Kidsgrove over the same weekend.
Making the same mistakes. Again.It says they are to add further fixtures
"Additional fixtures and ticketing information will be confirmed across the club's social media channels."
Imagine we will play away to maybe a National League side and if we do go abroad or even a UK camp for a week we will play someone out there. We won't go 3 weeks without a fixture.
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Big gap between the 3 non league games and the 2 home ties so assume we are possibly having a week away somewhere again.
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Score board could be better but maybe just a learning curve this season, announcing the players with images for example isn't even done which would surely make sense? and more replays.
I did like the little highlight clips they did just before kick off in a few games towards the end of the season which was well done but doesn't seem to be every week, like Derby had a mini video about their history and what it is to be Derby" to get the hairs standing up, get the crowd going etc.
It does seem massively under utilized considering its a great piece of kit to have.
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Decent video, no big statements but calm and measured. Carol has taken some real stick harshly maybe but hopefully we can all move forward.
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Watched the stream and came away feeling positive, think Moore's personality finally came out and it was good to see.
He was quite open and honest so see what happens. Bannan is a very long shot but I suppose big names have dropped to L2 in recent times.
Bannan and Ojo as play makers deep lying, with Garrity and Chis in front... that would be pretty special mind!
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June they said last night for the home.
Assume we will go back to keeping one of the three kits for 2 years (away kit becoming the third) not that its been much luck to us!
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6 minutes ago, Mellor! said:
Absolutely not. We were settling for half way this season and look what happened. We should be aiming for top 3, with top 7 as an absolute minimum.
If the club have them same attitude as the fans happy with half way then I won't be buying a season ticket. I'm not supporting abject failure for 3 seasons on the trot.
Agree, I think play offs have to be the very minimum aim, especially with how weak the league looks this coming season.
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5 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:
Was it against Wigan that he scored the winner in the closing minutes in his first spell with the Vale?
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He did yes, scored a stunner v Sheff United too. He scored 5 or 6 in a short spell and was outstanding with Andoh. Recall us battering Doncaster and one of their lads tried to rugby tackle him and he just dragged him along the ground as he kept running! He got sent off against Burton for diving and that seemed to be that with him at Vale.
There is a player there but he looks unfit, arguably the best he looked was once he picked fitness up against Charlton then he got injured the next game.
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Seems a lot of anger at the retained list but not sure what else we can do at this stage, the contract situation for the ones under contract is what it is and that will I am sure develop over the coming weeks in terms of letting players go, maybe even loaning them out etc so it was never going to say much more, could potentially transfer list some but assume thats being done behind closed doors.
Surprised at Uche a bit but not devastated by that, a full pre season against League Two teams that sit in he may be useful but it could also be terms of his current deal hence "in discussion" as I am sure the press released when he signed said the deal keeps him here "Until at least the summer".
Gutted James Wilson has gone but understandable and deserves to be remembered for those great moments in the promotion season, Derby and Plymouth away.
Feel a bit for Luetwieiler as never let us down but maybe a keeper more there to challenge Ripley for the number 1 would be better?
Massey as expected, good luck to him but not lived up to expectation.
Wynne I can't comment as never seen him play so will rely on Moore's judgement there!
Cass I assume will go but he was very good in L2 for us so not too down if he signs a new deal.
Devil will as always be in the detail.
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7 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:
Hope Crawley get lost. One of the worst away days I can ever imagine. At least at MK Dons the ground is decent when you get there.
I have always enjoyed Crawley, largely because we always seem to win there! Can't be a ground we've visited on multiple occasions where we have such a good record? Won all but 2 games, including 1 0-0 draw and a 3-2 loss when we had a man sent off at 2-1 up.
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27 minutes ago, darren1810 said:
So currently we have.
Cheltenham, Fleetwood, Vale, Carlisle.
Barrow, Bradford, Wimbledon, Walsall, Gillingham, Harrogate, Notts County, Morecambe, Tranmere, Accrington ,Newport, Swindon, Salford,Grimsby, Colchester and Chesterfield.
3 of Mk Dons,Doncaster, Crewe or Crawley.
1 of Solihull or Bromley.
It's a grim list. Good games with atmosphere pretty thin on the ground.
Notts County and Chesterfield be decent away games for Vale support.
Big big summer coming up.
If Crewe stay down and Solihull come up it is a great league in terms of local away games, shame Burton somehow stayed up or that would have added another in the mix.
That said, if we have a promotion/play off campaign its enjoyable, if we dont its not. I can't say I have enjoyed the last 18 months in a higher league so wont be a high bar to set to enjoy this more.
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Nowadays we are probably a yoyo league 1-2 club, long gone are the days of the likes of us Grimsby, Crewe, Walsall being regulars in the second tier largely due to the finance required...
That said football does change quickly, if a mega rich owner came in to a club of our size the potential is there to grow it and push it up like your Rotherham's, Brentford's or Bournemouths but the key word there is investment from mega rich owners. Wrexham possibly the next example to break out of the doldrums into it.
To achieve that I think we would have to leave Vale Park or rebuild on it to an "arena" like Rotherham that could be a big money maker etc. New Stadia often increase the fan base too when you consider say Hull City for instance and what the KC Stadium did there (but we don't have a relatively decent rugby team to help make it viable).
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This has Vale turning up, putting in a real performance and winning 3-0 now the horse has bolted.
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21 minutes ago, darren1810 said:
Seems odd Simpson quoted as saying mid table budget in L2 then ?
They didn't really sign anyone outstanding though in fairness, they signed L2 players hence their form never turned around at all.
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1 hour ago, MBE said:
I’d prefer Micheal Smith on the end of crosses from Jack Shorrock and James Plant.
To be fair it is no big secret that Michael Smith was at Vale Park deadline day until late wasnt he? and it fell through due to Wednesday not getting their target, suppose we dont know if that was a loan or permanent.
Would of stayed up had we signed him IMO.
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25 minutes ago, PVFC FAN said:
I agree with most of that but I can't see us keeping chis and garrity. So Darren or whoever is incharge of recruitment is gonna have a very busy window.
Not so sure we would lose Garrity, he would command a fee at this stage and likely would be courted by a lower half L1 club so may as well see out the year with us and see if he can get us back up.
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You cant get rid of them all, the costs are too high but have to remember we are dropping a level so have to work out who would do us a decent job in League Two...
Just because they've not done well in L1 doesn't mean they cant be an asset in L2 so that is what we need to establish.
Imagine we will release all the out of contracts (as much as I would keep Wilson) and so leaves us with Dipepa (if not sold who will be a low wage) and Loft so room for 2 strikers which we need to improve on.
Goalkeeper I would probably offer Leutwiller a deal and the two we have are fine.
Midfield I would move heaven and earth to try and keep Garrity and Chislett, Ojo will likely want out but would be stand out in L2, Walters looks off, so room to bring a couple in, need some wide men.
Defence is the big problem though, Smith is decent L2, would you get more from Debrah at a lower level and Yak? try and move Jones on but that be harder as he is injured a lot, room to bring a could in and we need a right and left back (or wing back).
I would imagine we will try and move on:
Sang (all be it maybe decent L2?)
Jones
Lowe
Loft
That leaves us room for around 9 or 10 permanents if Cass, Uche, Walters, Wilson, Massey move on plus your usual 3-4 loan players.
Even if we cant move on the 4 under contract we'd have room for 5-6 plus 3-4 Loan players so we can still improve the squad.
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We lack the nous to win games.
Wycombe a fine example, they were time wasting, and as with Exeter every time we broke would hack us down... we dont do that! How many times have we conceded from a breakaway when your thinking "Why didnt he take a yellow early on in the break and stop it"
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Just now, JoeB2 said:
We are the worst side in League 1 for set pieces. 10 scored from them, and 20 conceded. -10 GD.
Something to consider. None of the centre halves are aerially dominant. We concede loads from deep crosses. Size and height at the back is an absolute must for the summer.
Odd one this a little as I felt Yak was early season, he didnt start v Barnsley but in that good run he seemed to win everything.
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Tempting. What would the situation be regarding kit for instance?
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5 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:
I was going to point the three point fact out Rob... But you beat me to it!
They do have a slight chance but Derby have Cambridge A, Carlisle H so it's unlikely and they rested a few risk players Tuesday who had knocks "Looking at the bigger picture" like Santos.
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I think we will still have a sniff potentially as Reading should beat Burton and Lincoln Cheltenham all be it party rather have it over and done with!
I hope we just go there and have a go, nothing to lose now and sitting back for a 3-0 defeat is pointless at this stage. Take the game to them, they are all but out the race now for auto's so may rest a few touch and go players fitness wise for the Play Offs.
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It is the biggest summer Carol has had really. Some discontent in the fan base, a club with a losing culture for 18 months, and a structure that needs rebuilding.
L2 will be quite open, you've lost the big spenders in Wrexham and Stockport, hopefully MK join them, but the rest is much of a muchness. Still many questions, rumours Carol will go big, will Moore be here, if not who?, if Flickers was right about some decent offers made in January will we still have that approach to put this right with a big budget?
Until we are clearer on things like that it is hard to say, the double dip is a worry, FGR have shown what can happen but there seems to be a few clubs in bother down there and 2 spots only, as bad as we have been I do think much of this squad would survive in L2 and would surely strengthen now.
We need to get fans back onside and a positive outlook so does feel it needs a top 7 finish again minimum, if we go down, have a great season and bounce back up this will all soon be forgotten and the place will be buzzing again, easier said than done but certainly has to be a clear target for the club by what means necessary.
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Doubt Pep could get a tune from this lot in fairness and he looks and sounds resigned to it now. I imagine if he does intend to stay he can't wait to get to the summer and build his own side, then he can be judged, especially as it looks likely recruitment will be on him rather than above as it stands.
New kit for next season?
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Interesting to see what we come up with. That said I am stupid as I have just paid £84 for the England away one which is madness! (but i do like it!)