Valiiant

We might huff and puff for 20 or 30 minutes but this will end up 3 or 4. People call me negative, a Stoke fan, blah blah. That's fine. I certainly don't lose sleep over it. But in my eyes we were down 6 or 7 weeks ago and I made peace with it. Bring on the rebuild and get as many of these muppets out of the club as possible.

We still should have had enough to win our home games against bang average teams not really playing for anything though. The collapse against Exeter was completely unacceptable. We should have got 4 points minimum from the last two games and we ended up with zilch. Nothing. Nada. That's on Darren Moore. So far, he's been absolutely diabolical with an admittedly diabolical League One squad, which is down to Carol and her decisions over the season.

As long as he does his job and keeps those pies at a sufficient temperature I have no axe to grind with him.

I've never mentioned her family once. Well, maybe Patrick once or twice but he's about as useful as a one-legged man in an arse kicking contest.

How about you give your own thoughts and opinions instead of only replying to what others, in this case myself, has to say? Or is that beyond your capabilities, little man?

I get that. And doing so was her biggest mistake. Mistakes happen, and can be forgiven. Just want her to take accountability for her actions this season and show us all she's determined to put things right. She was taken for a mug by Flitcroft and she can't let that happen again, for her sake or the clubs.

One thing I will say is that when things we're going well, Carol's face seemed to be everywhere. Since things have gone <ovf censored> up it's almost like she hides away. You can't just expect constant praise in football whether you're a player, a member of staff or in this case the owner.

If he was a chocolate bar he would be a Freddo. He's just dull and uninspiring. I just cant fathom any player wanting to run through brick walls for him as many of them did for Clarke. Even Crosby for a while.

Or maybe this moronic part of OVF just want a chairwoman who puts her hands up and admits she's been getting it wrong, and tell us what she plans to do to start getting things right. Instead of sending out open letters insisting how she has been right all along and most others wrong.

I don't get this notion you often see here, the "even Guardiola or Klopp wouldn't make a difference, blah blah". While I don't think any manager could really make a significant difference, I agree with that, I certainly think another manager could have got us X amount more points during this time. We've just lost two extremely winnable home games against average, mid-table teams not playing for anything other than a bit of pride for crying out loud. However you look at it, Moore has been a disaster so far. He should be chomping at the bit to get us going in League Two next season as the last year or two of his career has been an absolute shambles and his reputation on the verge of being in tatters.

Having the wool pulled over your eyes is one thing. People make mistakes. But standing by that person to save face, further damaging the season, for as long as she did, while also trying to justify her decisions and tell everyone else just how very wrong they were, is something else entirely.

At this point they should be giving them away unless drastic changes are promised and made.

I was originally of the opinion that he shouldn't be judged at all really until next season. But by the time the season has finished he will have had plenty of games to have made some sort of impression. What has he showed us? That he has mastered the art of Ermm? He's genuinely given the team nothing that Crosby couldn't have. Only Crosby at least gave a decent post match interview now and again. Moore comes across as someone who has to Google how to put a Kinder Egg toy together. Clueless.

Christ. Yes, let's reward failure with a sing song. Maybe we can break into a Crosby song too after?

I believe she really could be Smurthwaite in a white wig. Just my humble opinion.

Like...how?

One of the worst managers in the whole of the football league. Huddersfield fans warned us and many of us didn't listen.

She's an egotistical disgrace that has set the club back years.

Christ, Phillip. You must be one lonely bloke.

It's actually amusing how much you've mentioned something about Stoke City in this thread and yet have barely made a comment about Port Vale, you melt. 😂

It's criticism, not abuse. She deserves far more than she's getting from so few based on her decisions since a fluky promotion.

After his stint with Huddersfield and then us, he'll be lucky to get a job as manager of Cwmbran Town FC next. Utter garbage.

It's alright, Carol will give out 5,000 Pot Noodles this summer within the Burslem and Tunstall areas, and all will be forgiven.

Arblaster and Devine were the only reasons we held our own to an extent for a while. That and the team spirit Crosby created which quickly dwindled away.

Lots of Vale fans seem to love utter dross, and failure. It's why Carol is the apple of many members eye here.