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10 hours ago, LancyTony said:
Ripley and the Yak...
Uche too, Whichever end of the spectrum we are in judging his ability, apparently we’ve at least two other L1 clubs prepared to pay us money for a player that cost us nothing (wages apart) when they’ve only been with us for just over 3 months. There’s still nearly half a season to go and the transfer window is still open so am in the camp of waiting until the end of April before commenting on how good/bad/indifferent our recruitment (for this season) has been.
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2 minutes ago, werstayinup said:
The most annoying part about the Uche thing is that Osh didn't let us know 🙂
Yes indeed. Osh, has your ‘deep throat’ sent you Dan Gore’s medical report yet
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25 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:
Loft is here for two years, so no doubt will still have plenty of chances to shine with Wilson’s injury record.
I’d like to see him play with JW and Chizzy. Might be no coincidence Uche’s recent better form has correlated with Willo’s return and Ethan playing better with our recent change to playing 2 up front too.
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2 minutes ago, Walka003 said:
Any normal well performing team, yeah that would be brilliant.
A team who will only have Wilson (a ballhair away from an injury at any point) and Loft (should have taken up bricklaying rather than football) available to play up front, not so good.
Still, two weeks left, tick tock.
He may be going nowhere, a lot of folks seem to be already assuming he’s definitely going. Surely he’d only be let go if we can find a suitable replacement beforehand - our having learned from the Connor Hall situation last year? Big gamble accepting a fee now (unless our hand is forced because there’s a release clause in his contract) and then assume we can still get someone in.
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14 minutes ago, Walka003 said:
Finally get him fit and playing OK then try to sell him. Belter.
Get him on a free transfer, get him fit, playing OK then sell him - would be how the club are probably looking at it. Isn’t that our business model - sign a player increase his value and then sell him on?
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15 minutes ago, Osh said:
This sounds like they've both spoken to Uche or his agent and Uche has said he'd like to go; IF thats the case and considering we've only got him for another 6 months, we should take a hard-headed approach and get every penny we can for him.
I know he causes problems for defences but lets be honest, he's not a great 'footballer'
If we could stick a good price on his head and get it I'd gladly see him go then use the money to find a better replacement. He's cost us nowt
DF will obviously have a release value for every player and if it’s met for Uche then he’ll go. Perhaps there’s also an element to this of Uche and/or his agent trying to get Vale to extend/improve his current deal, especially if he’s happy here.
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37 minutes ago, Warren said:
The Uche perspective only goes so far. Middlesbrough's centre halves thought he was very handleable.
I’ve only really seen Dunkley at Shrewsbury get close to ‘handling’ Uche single-handedly. Most if not all other L1/L2 teams have ended up having to at least double-up on him, just in case he creates opportunities/chances because of his unpredictable ‘style’. Our challenge, as a team, has been maximising those opportunities/chances when they occur.
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6 minutes ago, 1 said:
Flitters says that is “great experience”
I guess our DoF thinks playing half a dozen or so games in the Champions’ and Premier Leagues alongside one of the world’s best defenders (VvD) equates to “great experience”. Nah, unless you’ve played cold Tuesday nights in Burslem alongside ‘Pincher Smudge’ any European or PL experience means nowt.
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Is Mr Williams fully fit and available for Saturday? I’ve seen lots of comments about his injury record but not seen anything to say he’s currently injury free.
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1 minute ago, osprey said:
Looks a bit risky with his injury record- maybe Liverpool are impressed with our medical team’s experience 😀
They certainly did a good job with big Jesse (assuming he’s not out long term now 🤞) when other clubs didn’t seem to want to take the risk. If Rhys plays regularly and is as good/better than Jesse then happy days.
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2 hours ago, Shropshire_Valiant said:
TJH makes a good point, I think when we were more successful in this division at the start of the 2000s most of our better players came from being released by or signed from 'bigger' clubs. Brooker(Watford), Cummins(Middlesborough), Bridgey(was he Derby or is my memory failing?), McPhee(Coventry?).
But then a bit later we had Constantine and Sodje from Torquay and Darlington(although both had been around the houses a bit previously in the lower leagues). Like Rob says though it's swings and roundabouts, no harm having your finger on the pulse of the non league scene.
No mention of overseas leagues (apart from UK & Ireland) ? We may be once bitten twice shy because of the Bruno season but there may be as much value in still looking overseas than in the lower English tiers. Have proportionally more overseas players been successful than our non-league recruits? -can only think of Robin van der Laan ( Dutch 2nd division) as being really successful (Heald, Andoh, Jensen?) but we’ve not brought in a huge pool of players compared to those with a non-league background (admittedly Bruno year was an exception).
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2 hours ago, valefan79 said:
Are we really above average with the number of injuries compared to the rest of the teams, as I mentioned on an earlier thread, this is the normal now and we need to get on with it. It would be interesting to see someone post our injury record compared to other teams, I might be wrong but every team i see team news I hear lots of teams without 6 and 7 players every single week. Tonight was watching Middlesbrough and they had 14 out, don't know what it is, if the number of games, the boots players wear but it is getting beyond a joke all over the country. You say we can use the excuse for our performances, if we go on another winless run whilst Garrity is out, will that be the excuse.
The number of injuries has to be taken in the context of the make up of the squad where the 23 outfield players allowed can all be over 21 supplemented by as many as you like under 21 yo (year old) contracted players plus as many as you like academy (under18?) players. According to the EFL website
Vale have 22 contracted players (if big Uche is added), listed below. All other L1 teams have bigger squads (the majority being 27+, some 40+ contracted players, Middlesborough, mentioned above, have 52 contracted players) so when we have the same number of injured players as other teams it’s a bigger proportion of our squad that is unavailable for selection so is it not unreasonable therefore, to assume that has a bigger, detrimental impact on the quality of the team we can put out?
Port Vale - In Squad Players
Player Home Grown
1 Balmer, Kofi
2 Cass, Lewis Graham Yes
3 Chislett, Ethan Alexis
4 Clark, Mitchell Reece Yes
5 Conlon, Tom George Sawyer Yes
6 Garrity, Benjamin Matthew Yes
7 Grant, Conor James Yes
8 Iacovitti, Alexander Yes
9 Jones, Daniel John Yes
10 Loft, Ryan Yes
11 Lowe, Jason John Yes
12 Massey, Gavin Alexander Yes
13 Ojo, Funso-King Ayorinde
14 Sang, Thomas Roy Yes
15 Smith, Nathan James Yes
16 Wilson, James Antony YesPort Vale - Under 21 Contract players
Player
1 Arblaster, Oliver Luke
2 Devine, Alfie Sean
3 McDermott, Thomas Vincent
4 Plant, James John
5 Thomas, Joshua John-
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1 hour ago, Hitcher said:
Interesting that we tried for Weir in the summer. Anyway I hope he does well for us
Possibly sliding doors moment last summer ? If we’d been successful signing him would we have still signed the Blaster and/or Devine, changed the way we play etc..
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33 minutes ago, ValeForever. said:
Jake Young "pulled up in training" for Bradford on Friday, so he couldn't play any part on Saturday for them.
Very interestingly, if he had played for Bradford on Saturday, he'd have been ineligible to play for another football league club this season having already played for Swindon.
He's clearly sniffing a move!
Even if he is injured having “pulled up in training “ , then it’s guaranteed we’ll sign him, it’s what we do with strikers in the January window if last year is anything to go by (but Young might actually be worth the wait). If it’s a ‘mystery’ injury then is he the type of player we’d want to sign - is that type of behaviour conducive with passing our recruitment team’s di??head test?
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If there can be any positive to the news about Ben Garrity it’s that most clubs will lose interest in signing him while injured. Some may still have a punt though with a cheeky lower than market value bid because he is injured - saw on twitter Garrity to Bolton for £300k but am assuming it’s utter bolox.
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4 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:
The farcical 2 club rule means (I think) that Scarlett can't be loaned out again - played for Spurs in the League Cup.
Makes you wonder why he’s been recalled unless Spurs want him to play in/be available for the first team otherwise he’ll just be limited to non-league (u23) football.
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Dane Scarlett (striker) recalled by Spurs (not really hit it off at Ipswich 12 bitty Apps no goals) , perhaps Alfie can put a word in?
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21 hours ago, Guppys left peg said:
Only thing that makes me wonder with Ndala if we do or not is I'm guessing Smurthwaite was owning the club at that time he joined them and I wouldn't put it past him not to have had one inserted. Fingers crossed we did as that could be club altering.
Wouldn’t be a shock if our former owner had found some way of including some kind of sell on payment that went to himself or one of his other companies (other than the Vale) too - I never got the feeling he had the club’s future fortunes at heart, I don’t know whatever could have given me that feeling🤔.
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11 minutes ago, Osh said:
I like Al Hamadi at Wimbledon
Lots of clubs do too Osh, Wimbledon know it and have slapped a £2.5 mil price tag on him.
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36 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:
I read this morning how true I do not know, Giggs to Salford
Isn’t Giggs one of the co-owners too?
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3 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:
I've been fairly clear that I wouldn't extend Wilson's deal so don't want this to be seen as a opportunity to criticise the recruitment team.
Wilson is an excellent footballer, but for the 2nd season in succession is failing to hit 33%, or 1/3, of minutes. We are always a better side when he's fit, but how often does that happen?
Very popular and an easy win with fans on a day a very popular player leaves, but how much of a tangible impact will he have on our season? History suggests about 1 in 3 of the remaining games, or around 8-10 games, some of which he won't be fit for.
He could be the difference between going down and staying up, but I will always question the wisdom of sinking a wage into a player who is going to have to have a massive fitness turnaround to be anywhere near a consistent contributor.
Genuinely, fingers crossed he can turn a corner - I have just put up a picture in my office of his Wembley goal. Would proper love there to be more positive memories of him.
I see it as the value of paying wages to someone who might well have a bigger impact on team performances /results in the minutes they do play compared to the cost of others who play 3 times as long for the same or lesser positive impact.
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2 hours ago, darren1810 said:
Spot on. But without Ojo and Sang currently we're looking a lot worse off than that night.
Ojo played as the centre centre back that night too with Conlon and Walters ‘holding’ midfield. Don’t think TC’s been seen since and Rhys hasn’t looked capable of stepping in(yet), in the league fixtures at least. It’s definitely a concern and might mean we see those players we were looking to offload in January having to stay AND play.
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56 minutes ago, darren1810 said:
The thought of CJ Hamilton steaming at Lomax makes me very nervous.
Thought Hamilton played on the right - so steaming at Grant 🫣. Whatever side it is, the wingbacks might have their hands full if he decides to put on a show.
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Agree, but your last sentence is the kicker, along with if we’re made an offer we can’t refuse.