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1 hour ago, The French Connection said:
3hrs29mins from Burslem to Bromley.
We’ll have to go just to see us maintain the record of being the only club to have beat every other team in the football league 😉
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West Brom’s a good shout with the DM connection as has been said, Derby and Sheff Utd might be one’s too that might bring a few away fans (might even bring in more income than playing Crawley et al during the season).
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1 hour ago, Paul6754 said:
Interesting that the club aren't looking for another DoF but Darren Moore is going to assume that position/responsibility (If I understood/interpreted what was said correctly). So presumably all the recruitment staff will have some reporting relationship to DM or to his assistant.
That system should work for a club Vale's size as ultimately DM is responsible for the first team, tactics, performance and results, the buck stops with him. It's even more responsibility for DM so I hope he's good at delegating and is given the extra help needed.
Wasn’t the former DoF in charge of the academy, pitch improvements, medical staff and training facilities too?. Don’t remember it being said that Will Ryder (head of the academy?) would be reporting into DM , indeed Matt Hancock actually eluded to their being collective decisions eg determining where best to invest income from the sale of academy players. It was certainly clear DM would be in charge of first team matters and recruitment for sure, but don’t recall any of the other accountabilities the old DoF had being mentioned.
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33 minutes ago, philmpv said:
Talk is cheap, as people used to throw at DF all the time once we were struggling. Let's see what shape we're in come August
DM was very careful to not over commit. He said what fans obviously wanted to hear regards new signings but did caveat that by saying the players ultimately decide where they want to go, not PVFC. Phil Sproson, Adam Yates and Leon Legge have all commented on Radio Stoke previously too, that even if we match the offers of other clubs (financially) it’s still a difficult proposition to get permanent signings to come to our club, for whatever reasons. Experienced players (by that I mean natural leaders and winners) are not perhaps as easily persuaded by how well we look after them and/or their families as our young loanees (and their clubs) may have been in the recent past. As DM eluded too, we need a winning mentality first (as a club) being nice/friendly at the same time is the ideal but not a necessity.
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5 minutes ago, valeparklife said:
I didn't think Moore was the man for us based on what I've seen so far. I just felt he didn't "fit" the fans.
But I do feel much more encouraged after watching last night.
I've seen a different side to him.
Stern. Steely. Focused. Determined. Felt he had a real air of "I'm the boss, don't mess with me".
Clearly the nicey nice approach was to try and get a tune out of these dossers. Feel like that will change now and I'm all for it.
His comments about our being ‘soft’ with no ‘edge’ (ie too nice) as a club/team were particularly telling and on the mark. He’d obviously spoken to players collectively and individually since Saturday laying down exactly what his expectations of them will be when they return from their holidays. With some of his other comments it felt like he’d given the squad an ultimatum of it’s either my way (stern, steely etc) or the highway - contract or not.
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4 hours ago, Mellor! said:
People are laughing, but I've got a really strange feeling about this one. He's already made his money, last move of his career in a league where he would run the show, maybe get some coaching badges out of it and hopefully a promotion. It's no secret he absolutely loved playing for Moore at Wednesday. I just don't think it's as daft a move as people are thinking.
Cambridge fans thought Wes Hoolahan dropping a couple of divisions (via a 12 month sabbatical to the A-League 😉) to play for them was nonsense, but how wrong they were. Bannan signing for us would be a similar coup and if we could get a striker of Paul Mullin’s calibre too (Cambridge unbelievably signed him that same summer) then an immediate bounce back up could be on the cards. However, there’s no indication Bannan wants to leave according to this article, though guess he’ll have no say in the matter if Wednesday decide to release him next week.
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3 hours ago, werstayinup said:
Another striker who i aren't sure if they have had injury issues or not but I think Moore signed him for Doncaster is Fejiri Okenabirhie released by Cambridge
Having listened to U’s fans waxing lyrical about him the last couple of years, he’s essentially their James Wilson equivalent - he’d be playing at a higher level but for his injury record and it’s that record that’s made him affordable for Cambridge.
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5 minutes ago, Raveninblack said:
Cheltenham won last night and burton play Fleetwood but I want Cambridge to win as I like James gibbons and wished he had stayed
It’s still the most unlikely scenario but I would like to see Cambridge relegated purely since it’ll only be a 15 minute journey for me for the ‘away’ fixture.
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Posted this on the wrong thread earlier- Doh!
‘U’s fans at work are worried about Saturday- they’re assuming both Burton and Cheltenham will win and don’t think their team are up for it - a lucky draw last night with Lyle Taylor having an altercation with fans (told them to f’off) a la Sammy Robinson for us at Accy last season - they reckon there are only 3 or 4 players worthy of the shirt (sound familiar?) and they don’t see us as a pushover - I put them straight about the qualities of our team and suggested the right thing (for both sets of fans) would be to play the game as a five-a-side 😉’
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U’s fans at work are worried about Saturday- they’re assuming both Burton and Cheltenham will win and don’t think their team are up for it - a lucky draw last night with Lyle Taylor having an altercation with fans (told them to f’off) a la Sammy Robinson for us at Accy last season - they reckon there are only 3 or 4 players worthy of the shirt (sound familiar?) and they don’t see us as a pushover - I put them straight about the qualities of our team and suggested the right thing (for both sets of fans) would be to play the game as a five-a-side 😉
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7 hours ago, jjvale_03 said:
I think he came in and quickly realised that he was working with a bunch of losers.
He'll earn his 8k/week regardless of which division we're in so he's probably made the decision to accept the relegation in order to bring in his own players and have an easier job in L2 next season than L1. He'll get more credit for finishing top half of L2 next season than 18th in L1.
Good luck to him. Impressively for a man who's been here for over 2 months he's still yet to make a substitution that's had a positive impact on any game. Remarkable.
Sorry JJ the pedant in me wants to say he’s made one. Bringing Sang on during the 2nd half at Burton, for me, changed that game positively - but once out of 80 opportunities (5 per 16 games?)I think pretty much proves your point.
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1 hour ago, Guppys left peg said:
You’re right we certainly can’t just pay them all off, that is simply not going to happen. I’m hoping with a few of them though who have been more used to L1 wages we have wage reduction clauses in their contracts for relegation and that might make the decision for a few of them to see if another club will take them on.
Who knows we may be able to loan some of them out to reduce the wage burden? Would have thought more chance of other clubs considering loaning our unwanted, under contract players than paying any transfer fees. May be a few Mal Benning type ‘transfers’ - players finding other clubs and then agreeing to cancel contracts by mutual consent.
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2 hours ago, Vtid said:
Contracts don’t mean anything these days & he could have a relegation clause in that for all we know
Doubt any relegation clause will release him on a free. So If he’s not free who would buy him?
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I’m sure this is not the first time it’s been suggested but would having a fan rep/director or two on the board be a way forward to rebuild fan relationships with the owners? Who that might be would be the challenge- elected by 1876 club and season ticket holders (ie club ‘members’) perhaps with annual/seasonal elections? Get the impression our CEO may be up for it but don’t know if anyone else currently on the board would be.
Found this posted by an Everton fan group a few years ago. Food for thought?
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4 hours ago, philpvfc said:
They have gone from winning 3 games in well over half a season to winning 6 since he has left in a much shorter time span. Not sure how you can say over time he improves squads, he’s never lasted anywhere for 2 seasons.
They’ve won 4, 3 of them in the first 5 games after he left (they’ve not won since Feb) - arguably they got the new manager bounce that we didn’t.
He got relegated with both West Brom and Wednesday (when both in the relegation zone when appointed) was sacked by WBA when in the play offs (with 10 games to go) the following season, was poached by Sheffield when Doncaster were in the playoffs of L1 then got Wednesday to the playoffs in the 2 successive seasons (promotion the second time) following their relegation. Guess it’s debatable if play-offs following a relegation is because of improving his squads but he had no transfer windows to avoid relegation and at least 2 transfer windows to achieve play off positions at 3 of his 4 clubs.
Are his last 8 months a ‘blip’, in what ‘til then has been a relatively successful 6 year managerial career, or are they a sign of things to come? No one knows but I’m happy to be patient enough and give him at least one transfer window to find out, whichever league we’re in.
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9 minutes ago, Houston Valiant said:
Anyone can put SMURF as a name. It’s probably not him.
Yep. Am assuming the original post was referring to him seeing Carol at the EFL awards event? Was the event televised ? If not wondering why he’d be in attendance to see how Carol looked - would he have been the guest of another EFL club chairman?
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4 hours ago, Jacko51 said:
My better half heard it live on the radio at Chesterfield. Does anyone else remember thinking "bloody Liverpool fans causing trouble again"? Little did we know.
I recall thinking the same at the game, went from euphoria (didn’t Darren Beckford curl one in from the sideline?) to indignation when hearing whispers that Liverpool fans were on the pitch/‘trouble’ in the stands etc perhaps understandable following on from Heysel etc. Then to utter sadness/despair when got back to the car and put the radio on. Disgraceful what happened afterwards regards how authorities (police, government, some media etc) tried to blame innocent football fans.
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1 hour ago, MelbourneValiant said:
I didn't watch it, what formation was it? BBC Sport suggests 4-5-1 with Garrity, our main goal threat wide right. WTF??? I saw that and thought we cannot defend for 90 minutes, they only need one goal and game over, we have nothing out there that is any threat. Chislett on the bench? Rested or carrying a knock?
3-0 shows where we are.
Regards Chislett, he didn’t look 100% in the pre-match warm up - lots of ‘stretching’ rather than ball-work and lots of chat with coaching staff/physio(?), however, it didn’t show when he came on, though, unusually for him, he ran straight down the tunnel at the end - could be illness rather than injury and he just need the bog 🧻
Regards the game, despite what some have said, I thought there was plenty of effort without the ball just very little quality for the short times we had it. I said in another thread I felt pre-game the same as I did before the Ipswich game at the end of last season the performance was similar with regards the back-to-the-wall defending (especially first half) but that’s as close as we came to emulating the Ipswich game. Bolton apart, fortunately we won’t encounter the same attacking threat posed last night (I thought Mason-Clarke and Poku were class and am sure would give any opposition wingbacks/fullbacks a hard time let alone the makeshift ones we’ve had to field this season) and that gives me a glimmer of hope that we may still get something out of our remaining fixtures that at least gives us a chance of staying up.
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2 hours ago, sheffield61 said:
Remarkable but it's possible that 44-45 points will be enough if Cheltenham continue on its current nose dive. If that's the case it's surely a record breaking low total. Tonight now feels akin to a free hit & with the vital importance of GD a single goal defeat wouldn't be a disaster IMO....
Not record breaking this year - 40 was enough the season before last for Fleetwood to stay up . Tonight’s game has me feeling similarly to Ipswich away last year when I was expecting a much heavier defeat than we got and a much poorer performance than I saw. Don’t really go with the view of tonight being a free hit with the goal difference we have relative to Burton and Cheltenham - I’d settle for any result that keeps us out of the bottom 4 and keeps staying up in our own hands.
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Where are our centre halves - Jesse and Kasper - are both injured?
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11 minutes ago, Old School said:
My rose tinted glasses indicate a massive 2-1 win for the mighty Whites. Obviously this depends on us getting the first goal as I am struggling to think of us coming back from a goal down all season.
We’d be OK going a goal down if we played Charlton every week. Come backs from behind 4 times against them this season (Wycombe and Stevenage once each too 90 min & 90 min+ equalisers).
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15 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:
He has 7 L1 games and the U17 competition in Cyprus May/June to establish his breakthrough.
Let’s hope he breaks through (the opposition defence) and scores today and the next 3 or 4 games to keep us up 😁
What I liked about his goal on Friday was that he didn’t seem rushed at any point and it was an excellent/clever finish - wrong footing the keeper (did he give him the’ eye’) as well as the 2 or 3 defenders in the build up. I realise the BR defence weren’t exactly ‘at it’ on Friday but obviously the England set-up saw he had potential and if Baylee replicates that calmness in front of goal (and elsewhere on the pitch) on a regular basis then it’s no surprise that top clubs in England and Europe will be interested.
I don’t necessarily see it as a problem him/us being a ‘marked man’ and targeted by defenders/defensive midfielders. Firstly they’ve got to be good enough to get close to him, secondly if teams concentrate on him that leaves space for others (similar to the Uche effect) and third he’s already come up against big ugly defenders throughout the season and seemed to have progressively dealt with the challenges (problems) put before him. No doubt there will be some defenders good enough to have him ‘in their pockets’ during a game but sometimes I think we give too much credit to how good the opposition teams in this league are (I realise we’re 4th bottom but mean not every team will have defenders good enough to cope with talented forwards).
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12 minutes ago, Portvale4 said:
I’ve been really impressed with Dipepa over the past couple of months, and has really progressed since his first start against Fleetwood.
If you are a Premier League club who can throw about money, you’d be mad to not take a punt on a homegrown youngster who’s banging the goals in.
Not sure but him signing a professional contract may have allowed him to change his training regime. Possibly now down the gym everyday building his core strength so he’s now not so easily knocked off the ball by ‘grown men’. Think it was mentioned last season James Plant was a monster in the gym and his strength/fitness improved beyond that of the seasoned pros in the first team to the extent he forced his way into being selected for the the last few games of the season.
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No, hence the emoji. But it will be a new ground for all/most Vale fans and that reason is enough for some to make the trek. It’s only just over an hour away for us so we’ll be giving it a go.