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1 hour ago, robf said:
I'd agree with that. I think he needs a window to a) see what he brings in and b) how he performs with players he wants.
Yes, results have been underwhelming so far but just look at the squad he's been given. Would anyone be able to do much with three senior strikers who don't score (two of which have been injured as well) and a rookie teenager upfront?
If it isn't working then I would hope any change is made before January, allowing time to get a new bloke in with some of the January window remaining.
We still should have had enough to win our home games against bang average teams not really playing for anything though. The collapse against Exeter was completely unacceptable. We should have got 4 points minimum from the last two games and we ended up with zilch. Nothing. Nada. That's on Darren Moore.
So far, he's been absolutely diabolical with an admittedly diabolical League One squad, which is down to Carol and her decisions over the season.
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3 hours ago, Bimbleabout said:
Carols just his next one. He's done AC, DF and now CS. Once she's gone I've heard he's going to go for the lad that heats the pies
up in the railway kiosk. No one is safe from him
As long as he does his job and keeps those pies at a sufficient temperature I have no axe to grind with him.
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3 hours ago, Paul6754 said:
What will placate you so you'll shut up about the Shanahan family?
I've never mentioned her family once. Well, maybe Patrick once or twice but he's about as useful as a one-legged man in an arse kicking contest.
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3 hours ago, grand prix pants said:
I wish you’d hide away.
How about you give your own thoughts and opinions instead of only replying to what others, in this case myself, has to say?
Or is that beyond your capabilities, little man?
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1 hour ago, Guitar Ray said:
Maybe you’re standing by that person with the wool still firmly pulled over your eyes though.
I get that. And doing so was her biggest mistake. Mistakes happen, and can be forgiven. Just want her to take accountability for her actions this season and show us all she's determined to put things right. She was taken for a mug by Flitcroft and she can't let that happen again, for her sake or the clubs.
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One thing I will say is that when things we're going well, Carol's face seemed to be everywhere. Since things have gone <ovf censored> up it's almost like she hides away. You can't just expect constant praise in football whether you're a player, a member of staff or in this case the owner.
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1 hour ago, MiddleportValiant said:
A Manager is paid to get the best results that they possibly can, whatever industry that you work in. And in the Football industry you're paid quite well to do that, Moore for me isn't worth the 5 year deal nor the wages that'll be going on his bank.
2 wins out of 15 is utter sh**e. Whatever way you look at it.
Granted they aren't his players but listen listen his post match interviews, that wouldn't inspire my dog to f****** run around. And he's zooming at walkies😅.
I can't see us getting rid of him but I think the best thing for Port Vale is a complete revamp of the infrastructure of the club, what's that going to cost I don't know. I just don't think that Moore is up for it personally, complete lack of personality and fight.
If he was a chocolate bar he would be a Freddo. He's just dull and uninspiring. I just cant fathom any player wanting to run through brick walls for him as many of them did for Clarke. Even Crosby for a while.
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1 hour ago, JRC said:
I think that is the bottom line. The is a seriously moronic part of OVF who seem to truely believe there is a long queue of billionaires wanting to fund Vale. There isn't and until there is there is it's Carol or Barrett's Homes as realistic options.
Or maybe this moronic part of OVF just want a chairwoman who puts her hands up and admits she's been getting it wrong, and tell us what she plans to do to start getting things right. Instead of sending out open letters insisting how she has been right all along and most others wrong.
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1 hour ago, JS Valiant said:
At the end of the day whether you rate Moore or not, I personally don’t.
Managers are only interested in the Money.
Moore would not have come on a shorter or Rolling Contract based on Success.
I have listened to Steve Evans’s Club Interviews and how great a season Stevenage have being having etc and then today, at the drop of a hat he jumps Ship and goes to Rotherham.
Fans are loyal, Managers are in a Job.
That is why I can’t understand some Fans not blaming Moore.
The players are inferior to a lot in the league but a Manager worth his Salt should have got more points.
Maidstone United for example their manager knew their players were inferior but set them up accordingly and they beat 3 League Teams was it in the FA Cup including Ipswich and Stevenage.
3 wins out of 4.
Moore’s won 2 out of 15 is it.
I don't get this notion you often see here, the "even Guardiola or Klopp wouldn't make a difference, blah blah". While I don't think any manager could really make a significant difference, I agree with that, I certainly think another manager could have got us X amount more points during this time. We've just lost two extremely winnable home games against average, mid-table teams not playing for anything other than a bit of pride for crying out loud.
However you look at it, Moore has been a disaster so far. He should be chomping at the bit to get us going in League Two next season as the last year or two of his career has been an absolute shambles and his reputation on the verge of being in tatters.
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1 hour ago, princesslear said:
Yes DF seems to have pulled the wool over Carol's eyes but Vale need the Shanahan family so less of the hurtful social media digs
Having the wool pulled over your eyes is one thing. People make mistakes. But standing by that person to save face, further damaging the season, for as long as she did, while also trying to justify her decisions and tell everyone else just how very wrong they were, is something else entirely.
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At this point they should be giving them away unless drastic changes are promised and made.
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I was originally of the opinion that he shouldn't be judged at all really until next season. But by the time the season has finished he will have had plenty of games to have made some sort of impression. What has he showed us? That he has mastered the art of Ermm? He's genuinely given the team nothing that Crosby couldn't have. Only Crosby at least gave a decent post match interview now and again. Moore comes across as someone who has to Google how to put a Kinder Egg toy together. Clueless.
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5 hours ago, MelbourneValiant said:
Would a rousing chant of her name help at the last game to show that the fans are behind Carol and we wish her health well first and foremost.
Christ.
Yes, let's reward failure with a sing song. Maybe we can break into a Crosby song too after?
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I believe she really could be Smurthwaite in a white wig.
Just my humble opinion.
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29 minutes ago, Warren said:
But I can see he is a good manager
Like...how?
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One of the worst managers in the whole of the football league. Huddersfield fans warned us and many of us didn't listen.
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Just now, JS Valiant said:
El Presidente and Darren Moore in One Season.
How could you Carol, you have killed my love for Port Vale
She's an egotistical disgrace that has set the club back years.
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Just now, philpvfc said:
You can’t read as well as write then. Only trying to gain conversation with you what with you being a Stoke fan.
Christ, Phillip. You must be one lonely bloke.
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1 hour ago, philpvfc said:
Yawn. Is Coates perfect?
It's actually amusing how much you've mentioned something about Stoke City in this thread and yet have barely made a comment about Port Vale, you melt. 😂
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Just now, Vtid said:
Give it a rest lad your constant abuse of Carol is boring now & pretty cringeworthy. We all know you not happy about it neither are most fans she’s made mistakes & you’ve made your point
It's criticism, not abuse. She deserves far more than she's getting from so few based on her decisions since a fluky promotion.
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After his stint with Huddersfield and then us, he'll be lucky to get a job as manager of Cwmbran Town FC next. Utter garbage.
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It's alright, Carol will give out 5,000 Pot Noodles this summer within the Burslem and Tunstall areas, and all will be forgiven.
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Just now, dantheman said:
Had relegation written all over it from the first kick of the ball against Barnsley and we never addressed it. Shameful from all involved.
Arblaster and Devine were the only reasons we held our own to an extent for a while. That and the team spirit Crosby created which quickly dwindled away.
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Just now, eh up nah said:
I'd have Chris Slater over the Yak
How that useless <ovf censored> has managed to get himself a reasonably affectionate song of his own is mind boggling
A truly awful player
Lots of Vale fans seem to love utter dross, and failure.
It's why Carol is the apple of many members eye here.
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Bolton (A) match thread - 20th April
in Port Vale present
Posted · Edited by Valiiant
We might huff and puff for 20 or 30 minutes but this will end up 3 or 4. People call me negative, a Stoke fan, blah blah. That's fine. I certainly don't lose sleep over it. But in my eyes we were down 6 or 7 weeks ago and I made peace with it.
Bring on the rebuild and get as many of these muppets out of the club as possible.