Spunk Trumpet

Where have I ever said I boo players? With each passing day you are making yourself look a Richard. Keep going for everyone’s entertainment. To watch you melt down is quite good fun.

Just playing devils advocate here and I get your personal opinion. But how do you explain a 48% win ratio at West Brom, a 45% win ratio at Doncaster and a 51% win ratio at Sheffield Wednesday including a promotion through the play offs having accumulated almost 100 points? You don’t just become a bad manager overnight. He’s walked into our club with a clutch of players who are crap. That’s the crux of the situation. Even Klopp wouldn’t get a tune out of this lot. And isn’t it true that you had massive injuries when he was with you? Obviously all opinions differ and I’ll reserve judgement until he at least gets a summer, unless Flitcroft has control of that summer, in which case he will become another one of Flitcrofts scapegoats.

Fans have supported their team. All season. Home and away. Let’s stop rallying the fans crap eh? From now on in it will stop IF we fail to get three points on Saturday. We have a such a small squad supported by youth lads because of extortionate wages on extortionate crap. Its not rocket science.

“Support the players.” Fans have done that all season. ”Will the ball into the goal” You are sounding stupid. That’s an impossible scenario. It’s just a virtue signaling saying. ”Perform the great escape” It really isn’t the great escape at all. Even if we had an half decent defence and a striker that could score we’d give ourselves half a chance! Pathetic rallying cries are long gone with this pathetic shower we are watching. Heres an idea. Maybe radical. But how about instead of concentrating on fans supporting the club and willing the ball in the net, which they have all season…… the actual bottle jobs on the pitch start repaying the fans and give US something to cling to and shout about. Proof is in the pudding with this shower of <ovf censored>. Theyve got Saturday to make amends or it will turn nasty.

You see, you carry on debating with me and you carry on making yourself look stupid. You go and quote me on where I once said I expect or even want Darren Moore to be sacked. Then go and quote me on where I said I want Carol to sell up. You go and waste your night hunting those quotes. You won’t. Because I’ve never said that. I want one man fired and that’s David Flitcroft. And you sound quite angry there. Hit a nerve have I? Thought you were just constantly happy! Clap clap clap. Enjoy your night.

This Vale squad do not need a place with “nice facilities”. They don’t need to be told they are “phenomenal”. The last thing this lot need is Molly cuddling. What they need is 2 days at an army training camp. Seperate the boys from the men. See who is up for the fight. Then get back on Wednesday for their day off, take a look at who didn’t fancy it and publicly put them on the transfer list for the summer and publicly tell them they have no future. A <ovf censored> spa resort? Shine a light. Wouldn’t have happened under Micky Adams.

I don’t set out to insult you. If you go to a restaurant and you pay 25 quid for a cold steak and burnt chips and the person serving it to you abused you, then I take it that you pay your bill and smile and go back next week? If you go to the pub and have a warm pint for 5 quid and a bag of crisps out of date, you’d thank them and go back the following night? If you went to work and those around you were on 2000 pounds a week and not putting any effort in, yet you were an up and coming lad, who puts a shift in and tries his best on 300 quid a week, you’d have no problem with that would you? If your Mrs went out for weeks on end and you knew she was having an affair. Would you not be angry? Would you not be whiny? Would you not be a miserable son of a wretch? As you put it? Probably just best to clap along and accept. You see Tony, you keep debating with me. You will end up getting personal because your debate does not stand up. There is NOTHING wrong with “happy clapping”. Why? Because it’s everybody’s choice. People have choices in life. But I merely stated in my first post to not moan when you’re freezing in the paddock, potentially pissing in a portaloo again, after going one down against Crawley in front of 2500. I would also suggest, only my opinion Tony, going off what you posted, is that if you’re just happy clapping for your health, then you aren’t truly invested in the club, have no fight, and therefore turn up, watch the football, clap good or bad and go home. Each to their own pal. I would rather be a man and stand up and be counted and fight for this club. Have a wonderful day.

It's not his fault what he gets paid. It's flitcrofts. That’s what I’ve just said.

It’s not. You’re correct. It’s a waste of a wage though. Like most. 100% is the MINIMUM any footballer should give. That’s a given. Talent wise he ain’t worth half of that. And that lies with the DOF who has sanctioned these signings and wages.

Cheltenham, who have our promotion winning manager, who was sacked, and beat us twice this season, have a budget of 2.5 million. And they probably don’t have nice changing rooms and ice baths.

Again, they aren’t big wages for this level. They are HUGE wages for the quality of player. Colby Bishop is on £5500 a week at Pompey. So when you consider that Uche and Loft combined are on over 7k, that’s frightening.

I don’t think you’ll find a club who operate on anything less than around 2.5 million a year in this league. So it’s not so much the money being paid, it is like you say, the quality for your buck. Thats a glaring reason why Flitcroft should be sacked.

You can’t believe everything you read on the internet but I also hear other sources close to the club. This isn’t me calling anyone out. The information is out there. Our annual wage budget is around 3.2 million. Which would be about right considering we were mainly around the 2 to 2.5 million mark in league 2. Now breaking that down individually. Again the information is out there. Per week. Uche. 4500. Ojo. 4300. Grant. 3400. Massey. 3200. Loft. 2700. Iacovitti. 2500. Garrity. 2500. Ripley. 2400. Jones. 2400. Chisnall. 2300. Wilson. 2100. Lowe. 2100. Debrah. 2100. Clarke. 1900. Smith. 1900. Leutweilwer. 810. Plant. 510. Then there’s the kids and loanees. So the next time you say “just get behind the lads” it’s time to take a step back and get some perspective when you’re going work and not earning those figures in a month. I wouldn’t pay most of that lot with washers but that’s where the money has gone. That’s what the DOF has bought. That’s where Carols and the clubs money goes. Yet she defends the indefensible. Unbelievable.

Loft and Uche are on more than that. Massey would be. Probably Grant. A few are over 2k a week.

How you applaud that week in week out, is beyond belief. Some of those players are picking up 8 thousand pound a month. So sadly, that is the definition of a “happy clapper”. Nobody claps angrily. And if you clap even though you’re not happy then you’re robotic and accept the utter crap you’re given week in week out. By clapping these robbing useless clowns on the pitch, and the club in general, you will never get the change we so desperately need. These performances are not acceptable.

Derby have more money than us. They are more appealing than us. That’s just the sorry truth. Using my analogy, at least come back with 5 good steaks! Minimum. I will tell you now, Ryan Loft and Uche are on a combined 7000 pounds a week. Roughly. That’s a huge amount of money to throw down the drain on happy shopper beans.

If I had 200 quid and told you that I want some good quality food and I said that YOU are in charge of sorting that for me, and you came back with processed crap cheap tinned rubbish, should I sell up my business or sack YOU?

We’ve picked up three points on three occasions in the last 6 months. Let that sink in. What sane supporting fan actually thinks we can get out of this? And any fan who bangs on about supporting the lads. The 12th man. All that crap. They’re delusional. Derby will batter us.

She doesn’t need to sell up. She needs to wake up. It will happen and Flitcroft will get fired. Sadly it will take time to understand that she’s been controlled.

And who’s the fella calling him “Flicker”???? Embrace him by his name and not that stupid nickname that gives him power and says I’m better than you.

Nice to see Mr. Everything football doing his bit today by going for a walk to get 500 and odd quid for the foundation. It’s virtue signaling at its finest. Darren Moore stated in one of his interviews that he and “Dave” would leave no stone unturned and it’s 24 hours a day. Bull. Carol claps like a seal. Dave stands there knowing he’s in control. Mr Narcissist strikes again. The fans want him to do his <ovf censored> job. Not go walking for the foundation. What an absolute mess this football club is in.

I’ve just listened to Moores pre match interview about free agents. ”Me and Dave” At this point I’m thinking he’s surrounding himself (Flitcroft) with shields to release the pressure. ”We tried”. Same old <ovf censored>. Unsurprising. So there you go. We go into the remaining games with the crap we have. As Vale fans you make your mind up and make your mind up quick. If you think it’s acceptable that Dave Flitcroft should be here and is doing a good job then good for you. But don’t moan in the summer when he oversees another transfer window. Ive never known anything like this at all. Something does not stack up.

Oh he will mate. Thats what narcissists do. He will just get security. And the way it’s going, Carol will be there holding his hand. Im absolutely stunned at the whole mess. It hasn’t even crept in overnight. It’s been ongoing for 18 months or more. He has bull crapped the fans. He has bull crapped the owner. And only one side can see it and the main side that needs to see it, flutters her eyelids at him and kisses his arse. The strangest I’ve ever seen this club. Not the worst mate but good god this is one weird situation with their relationship, when the whole fanbase can see that his position is untenable.

Considering he’s the head of “everything football related” you are very correct. The evidence is overwhelming. If this was a court of law, the jury would unanimously vote in favour of his sacking. The man is an utter disgrace. And I’ll continue to say it. He’s a narcissist. Where is the POWERFUL woman Carol once was? Where has that demeanor gone? Why is she against the fans in defending him? Why is she emotionally defending him in the valiant suite? It is all the traits of being controlled by a narcissist. Id happily tell him to his face as well but he would just laugh it off and ridicule me. And make me the victim. It’s what they do. At this very point in this football club, he is now the most evil person we have had since Norman. And I would go as far to say that he is not far off Norman. And I don’t say that lightly. 18 months of excuses. This is getting silly. True fans will be getting angry.

All she needs to do, whether we stay up or not, is to sack Flitcroft or at the very least, take him away from everything football. The fans don’t want her to sell. They just don’t want another atrocious transfer window. Its pretty much that in a nutshell.